Template Blends/Fusions

[Kappa]

This was running a bit off-topic in Prurient Fascinations and it's an interesting subject by itself, so.

Currently I have JokerSherlocks and StevenChainsaws, fusion-wise.

The Tony template really doesn't seem to want to fuse with anybody, but the Anna template is okay with it as long as I find a compatible second ingredient.

The individual components of template blends have to resonate with each other in some way. Jokers and Sherlocks have a lot of complementary traits - they have conflicting traits too, but there's synergy there. Stevens and Chainsaws synergize on a lot of levels too. If you have a fusion suggestion, what do you think the points of congruence are?

Incidentally, I can't remember if I've mentioned it on the forum but I remember discussing a CapGregor fusion with somebody and while they have a surprising amount of synergy going on, they would be such a horrifyingly depressing person that I can't bring myself to do it.

[Aestrix]

Me! You were talking about it with me! :D

Yes, poor CapGregor, with their serious depression issues.

[MaggieoftheOwls]

I am having a difficult time articulating why I think an AnnaRipper is a good idea, but I think an AnnaRipper is a good idea. Possibly with the maybe awesome/maybe horrifying Raynesaw as a best friend.

[Kappa]

<3

*looks up chatlogs*

A summary of the GregorCap problem from #backstage (I edited out a bunch of stuff, you can see the full log at the link):

22:35 <@kappabeta> i came here pretty much entirely to yell about gregorcap
22:35 <@kappabeta> lambda what have you done
22:35 <@Sonata> I thought of the phrase "on va vor" and it sort of snowballed from there
22:35 <@kappabeta> sonata went on alicorn's forum and suggested that i make a template blend between gregor vorbarra and steve rogers
22:35 <@kappabeta> and like
22:35 <@kappabeta> oh my god?!
22:39 <@kappabeta> Okay so, we've met StevenChainsaws now
22:40 <@kappabeta> StevenChainsaws are extra double chocolate fucked up because they are a blend of two templates who are each individually fucked up, and whose fucked up personalities synergize into someone even more fucked up
22:40 <@kappabeta> like in a lot of ways they run on a more even keel than either of the templates do solo?
22:40 <@kappabeta> but holy hell, the shit going on under the surface
22:41 <@kappabeta> anyway so but gregorcap though
22:41 <@Sonata> i am not great at theory-of-mind but i kind of feel like gregor plus cap equals miles, more or less
22:41 <@kappabeta> Gregor's character arc is essentially "ludicrously depressed, does the thing anyway, eventually reaches a place where he is okay and happy"
22:42 <@kappabeta> Cap's character arc can be summarized from several different angles but one of them is kind of... "driven to do the thing no matter the cost to himself, ends up ludicrously depressed and doing the thing anyway"
22:42 <@kappabeta> these things don't mesh well
22:42 <@Sonata> oh. oh dear.
22:43 <@Sonata> um.
22:43 <@Sonata> do the overlapping things have to /stack/? can't they just. overlap?
22:43 <@kappabeta> they both have that essential characteristic of feeling a strong pull to fulfill certain duties, whether self-imposed or externally imposed
22:44 <@Sonata> like, "driven to do the thing no matter the cost to himself, ends up ludicrously depressed and doing the thing anyway, eventually reaches a place where he is okay and happy"?
22:44 <@kappabeta> sonata: Steve doesn't *start out* ludicrously depressed
22:44 <@Sonata> I think I have all the glyphs
22:44 <@kappabeta> but a gregorcap *would*
22:45 <@Sonata> I...don't see why, kappa?
22:45 <@kappabeta> what don't you see why, sonata?
22:45 <@Sonata> why the cap can't set up the conditions for the gregor
22:46 <@kappabeta> because of how template blends, like, work
22:47 <@kappabeta> a template blend is essentially... "overlay this personality on that personality, and this attractor set on that attractor set, and smooth out the parts where they conflict"
22:47 <@Sonata> ok, so starts depressed, gets driven into something that makes him /even more/ depressed (Mial on early esu? even more so than that?), eventually gets better?
22:48 <@kappabeta> well, "starts depressed" and "gets driven into something that makes him even more depressed" definitely both apply
22:49 <@kappabeta> the thing that makes me wary of trying to get a gregorcap to fully click in my head is that I'm not totally sure I see a way out

...An AnnaRipper is an... interesting idea. A Raynesaw is nearly certain to turn out completely terrible, possibly to the point where I wouldn't even want to try it.

[MaggieoftheOwls]

A Raynesaw sounds epically terrible. Like, 10/10 trainwreck, would explode again once I'm finished picking fragments of my own bones out of my teeth terrible.

[DanielH]

Would a Raynesaw have all of a Sandy’s tendencies towards wanting to rip people’s bones out with none of the ethical restraint or self-dislike? I suppose the AnnaRipper would still be able to stop them most of the time, but before that…

[Bluelantern]

Raynesaw... sounds like "I have seen this slasher film, but can't recall the name" kind of bad. I am not entirely sure of what Anna contributes to the AnnaRipper template?

[MaggieoftheOwls]

Other ideas I have had:

ThorDarcy
SimonSherlock
MatildaJoker
MatildaMiles

[Bluelantern]

Other ideas I have had:

ThorDarcy
SimonSherlock
MatildaJoker
MatildaMiles

*walks away slowly from MatildaMiles* I thought about that, but it isn't the type of thing you can just say it! Don't toy with this kind of force!

(Simon is some Vor or Barrayan?)

[MaggieoftheOwls]

Simon Illyan, head of ImpSec.