Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

[Shoal]

I am posting my plans for the night now because I expect to be asleep when the day finishes. The private key is not the same as for my role post because when I tried it it just wrote "false" so i had to make the key larger. If I don't have powers in the game, this is instead some part of my real-life plans for the night.

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[BlueSkySprite]

Is there a website that does a similar thing to the cryptography website but in a way that's harder to mess up with?

[DanielH]

Probably somewhere. The linked crypto website has REALLY BAD UI. Like, I don’t think I could make something with UI that bad unless I tried. I’d recommend using the command-line tool, but that has bad documentation and command-line automatically makes things seem harder than they are. Once I’m done with what I’m currently doing I’ll try to find one though.

[Tulip]

Is posting plans for the night before the night happens really a good idea? I kind of expect it to lead to people changing their minds for perfectly innocuous reasons after making the posts, and then coming under suspicion after the reveal because things didn't go the way they'd initially stated, and I don't see what the payoff is supposed to be the way I do with posting roles early. What advantage do we gain from it?

[DanielH]

Suppose, to take the previous example, that I am a Chris and I can protect one person per night. If I go say encrypted, before the night is over, “I plan to protect Tulip”, and then in the morning Tulip was attacked but the attack was deflected, then my claim to be Chris is much more credible. If I don’t post plans, but in the morning I say “I protected Tulip”, then I could have claimed it after I already knew Tulip had been protected.

[Thatwasademo]

Suppose, to take the previous example, that I am a Chris and I can protect one person per night. If I go say encrypted, before the night is over, “I plan to protect Tulip”, and then in the morning Tulip was attacked but the attack was deflected, then my claim to be Chris is much more credible. If I don’t post plans, but in the morning I say “I protected Tulip”, then I could have claimed it after I already knew Tulip had been protected.

On the other hand, the killers would already know Tulip was their target, so they could make the same claim just as easily, provided one of them claimed to be a protector. In either case (with or without an encrypted record of night plans), if a protector actually succeeds and they or a killer claims to have been the protector, we get the same 50% chance. If no killer had made such an encrypted claim, then the killers couldn't contest that claim regardless of encrypted plans.

[DanielH]

I’m not sure I understand that. The killers don’t expect Tulip to be protected in that scenario, or they’d kill somebody else. Plus, where does 50% come from?

[Thatwasademo]

I’m not sure I understand that. The killers don’t expect Tulip to be protected in that scenario, or they’d kill somebody else. Plus, where does 50% come from?

The killers know that they were going to kill Tulip. If nobody dies, they then know that Tulip must have been protected (or their kill was prevented by other means?). 50% chance to lynch a killer comes from a hypothetical scenario of one killer claiming to be a protector and the actual protector claiming (if more killers claim, the chance is better, if only one person claims, we can fairly safely assume the person claiming is actually a protector).

[BlueSkySprite]

In games similar to this I have played, if someone has a protective power and uses it to protect a character from killers, and it actually saves the character, the narrator says so the next morning.

[Shoal]

The killers expect to kill Bella. They are probably working together. They expect Bella to die and the other people to live to see morning. They can each write encrypted text posts saying they are protecting Sherlock, Tony, the Joker, and Alice. The next morning, neither Sherlock, Tony, Joker, nor Alice die because the killers killed Bella. Later one of the killers, the one who had written they were protecting Tony, is on trial. People got suspicious of them. So they uncrypt their old textposts and it shows that they protected Tony on Night 2, and Tony did in fact not die because Bella was killed that night. And then we all think that they're a Chris who tried to protect somebody and protected the wrong person.