Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

[DanielH]

I also have faith in people being more civilized than that; I’m mostly doing the decrypt-everything idea as a “just in case” and because a lot of people won’t give pubkeys so I need to decrypt everything from that person anyway.

What’s that encrypted message for? Obviously you might lie, but I would still appreciate a label of some sort. Your nighttime plan? I suppose that’s a good idea, even for people who have nothing to do in the night. I was holding off because if I was going to act tonight I’d want to have all the data, but I can post a non-definitive plan and explain in the morning why I changed if I did. I’ll post that later, after I’m done with going through the index and it’s closer to nighttime.

I’m not convinced PMs are undetectable (the game mod is also the forum owner, although I’d believe her if she said she doesn’t read PMs even in the game), but a lot of players have off-site contact methods that are (and are also more convenient). And, again, faith in civility, the game is relatively fragile, etc.

@Shoal, Alphabeta: If Alphabeta is against day-one lynching, then Alphabeta should stay on No Lynch. The most likely lynching outcome is currently lynching BSS.

[modrony]

Would everybody know that the attack bounced from X? Or we just know that X didn't die that night (like the rest of us that didn't die that night)? I suppose some people with night actions might know that an attack bounced, but a killer who was planning to attack Y that night could write that they were planning to shield X.

We might know. The rules are secret.
We don't even know Chris exists or works that way.
I would be surprised if killers know how it works either. If the player of Chris exists he is likely to know better than the killers.

A killer could fake it, but only if he claimed Chris now (and guessed the mechanics correctly). And if the identity-claim happens after this post it will be suspect.

It's only an example and an unlikely one.
Still, even a small advantage is an advantage.

[DanielH]

Almost done extracting cryptography into separate files to run through OpenSSL command line tool. In the meantime, I have some things to share:

BlueSkySprite, your defense and your template statements are actually the same encrypted message. Could you please check that both your stated template and your stated powers decrypt correctly?

People with no crypto or other roleclaim: andaisq, michaelblume, tau. We know michaelblume saw the crypto and gave the helpful reminder that there are cryptographic hashing schemes other than asymmetric-key cryptography, but unless he was actually claiming to be Ripper instead of using it as an example, he hasn’t used any or roleclaimed.

EDIT: Everybody with crypto has at least one crypto roleclaim¹. I’m about to check the private keys. I expect to decrypt three messages, and find three posted public keys with corresponding private keys.

¹ I say “at least one” because a lot of people have separate template claims and power claims, not because anybody has started multiple supposedly-identical claims. The only person with that is BSS, who we’ve already discussed probably made a mistake on the crypto site because it has horrible UI and she has JavaScript disabled.

[modrony]

Your nighttime plan?

I think 'last crypt of the day' works as proof of being a night-plan later, if the content matches.
That way people don't have to indicate it as such at the time of the post.

[BlueSkySprite]

For decrypting it to check, how do I change what the public key is on the website? It doesn't let me edit the public key text.

Also my first encrypted message was supposed to also be my template statement, and I want to know how you know that without decrypting both?

[Shoal]

Andaisq mentioned something about being the joker. I think was just using as an example and not actually roleclaiming but I'm not sure. i got jokerish vibes off him and not just in that post regardless. I think Andaisq is at least pretending to be the joker.

[DanielH]

You need the private key to decrypt. You change the private key, but the encrypted text in the right-hand textbox, and hit the Encrypt / Decrypt button. Something should appear on the left: “This is a test!” if a problem occurred, or the decrypted message otherwise.

I know the defense and the template were the same because the encrypted message was the same. Both were “YTY1/EyitRp7w+q63jLh2dsCP8UjEK96dDqfqLs83fNcwqJlX0NQA7kZp3Vz1qoLukhkv9f990bOMT1qiQAXpw==”.

[Shoal]

You need the private key to decrypt. You change the private key, but the encrypted text in the right-hand textbox, and hit the Encrypt / Decrypt button. Something should appear on the left: “This is a test!” if a problem occurred, or the decrypted message otherwise.

I know the defense and the template were the same because the encrypted message was the same. Both were “YTY1/EyitRp7w+q63jLh2dsCP8UjEK96dDqfqLs83fNcwqJlX0NQA7kZp3Vz1qoLukhkv9f990bOMT1qiQAXpw==”.

Just tested with 512 bit key to encode "This is a test!" and the result is 88 characters long, just like BSS's message above is also 88 characters long:
DXF390ixixZXItDh0DEe4ecLk9J5QnCSaCgoNZxdBfQEw6M+Rx+wL4KlflFVcZ/gVBllHPY6Cb5W9IVstFmjOQ==


I think it is possible that BSS is still having javascript problems and that the message is "This is a test!"

edit: and im posting the private key for the above because it's unique and i'm not going to reuse it

-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----
MIIBOgIBAAJBAJESZHj3oFF1pssDnok5NNzcaeB3Cmt+v3zZ/YyYuGLifxXFhtKR
yZuwznl6jwF2sV0YPg19jCTnnAyt4Jnur7kCAwEAAQJAdP4UMMnibE8pN8evbpLH
4uWOLQtTR+Vrn9Bc/amb6YHvvEGUj0LmJehz078kBfXBQCjq2JZkJlJwAJtdRdmR
QQIhAM8/JGTukx7raCyG2DiZAg6dP6flVbb3GivE7c/lXP4FAiEAszLxulPyAhWt
25s9OKSWKHckHVP0xsK0guKAFJMOZSUCIBJsaI3Yb5e2EaKzshEF+RrXe8svJfmH
6fmuHf33Q9cJAiEAsNYoJ0ipvJbqL5m9S4VXzOztjaeJGQ+RFMwxupv4C6UCIAJk
6m+mQJrK+2810TAEkSVjBAqegkxRJ0g8XSpdoTOA
-----END RSA PRIVATE KEY-----

[BlueSkySprite]

Okay yeah the first defense and the template statement were supposed to be the same thing, just showing how I thought people could put the crypto in spoiler boxes to save space.
How do you change the Public Key though? The public key is different from the one I used when I go to turn it back, and I'm pretty sure it's supposed to need both to unencrypt right? Like otherwise what would the point even be?

[Alphabeta]

Okay yeah the first defense and the template statement were supposed to be the same thing, just showing how I thought people could put the crypto in spoiler boxes to save space.
How do you change the Public Key though? The public key is different from the one I used when I go to turn it back, and I'm pretty sure it's supposed to need both to unencrypt right? Like otherwise what would the point even be?

The public key is, to my knowledge, only used to encrypt.