There should be an Effulgence thread

[Kappa]

We spelled it "ialder" in that Matilda sandbox, but I might like "ialdaer" even better. Pretty!

[Bluelantern]

@Lambda: I dont think it was that, I think there were multiple matildas involved

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General characteristics:
An ialdaer has five attributes:

• Generation: How quickly the ialdaer can generate magic for various purposes.
• Storage: How much magic the ialdaer can hold onto at any given time.
• Handling: How quickly the ialdaer can use magic.
• Entanglement: How much the ialdaer’s use of magic affects the patterns of the world they’re in (to be discussed later).
• Perception: How well the ialdaer can see ialdae-related magic.

Somebody can grow in all five attributes by using ialdae, but I get the impression this doesn’t happen very much.

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huh, there is something similar to Generation, Storage and the patterns in a magic system I am creating, now I worried it was influenced by ialdae >.>

[Kappa]

Oh, also: "handling" isn't precisely "how quickly the ialdaer can use magic". Storage is how much magic the ialdaer can have passively stored in total; handling is how much magic the ialdaer can be actively using at one time, or in other words, the maximum size of spell you can cast.

[DanielH]

So somebody with low handling can’t do as big a thing as somebody with high handling, but they might still be able to get out more magic per second if they can cast faster?

[Kappa]

Yes.

[DanielH]

I know you generally can’t make wishcoins out of anything but pain, and there’s pretty much no way around that. However, I have some questions about generating coins or wishes in different forms where the requisite pain is still experienced :

• Could you wish upon a hexagon for some number of squares (or in general wish upon a high-denomination coin for low-denomination coins in quantity)?
• Could you pentagon up a device that (perhaps one time only) will grant square-sized wishes? For example, candle that, when lit, will not burn lower or go out unless deliberately blown out, and if at that time the blower is making a square-sized wish, that wish comes true (perhaps with caveats like only working once, or something)? This, with added safety procedures and perhaps added thematic components, could then be appropriate for putting on a birthday cake. Presumably if you can do something like this, a pentagon would suffice, but larger coins would be needed to get larger wishes.
• Similar to the above, could you wish up a candle that can be provided with a coin, and when the candle is blown out with a wish would transfer the wish to the coin (or put the coin in contact with the blower and convince the coin that a wish directed at the candle should count as a wish directed at that coin)?

[Kappa]

The procedures for creating coins and for wishing on coins cannot be bent - coins are made directly by mints experiencing pain, and coins are wished on directly by people physically touching the coin.

I don't know about creating items that grant wishes, but I suspect that although you can design magical objects with nearly arbitrary properties and could get very close to a wishing candle, wishcoins will not actually generate artifacts with the full capabilities of wishcoins.

[DanielH]

Near the beginning of Effulgence, when Orfeo imprinted on Libby, they were trying to figure out what to do about this. Mary said that trying to directly attack the packlessness problem was one of the worst possible approaches, because it wasn’t a one-time fix and would cause unspecified tensions. Is there a particular reason it wasn’t a one-time fix, besides you wanting to make Chris a wolf? What problems would cause the unspecified tension in this approach (assuming they were good about renewing the wish before it expired, which I’d assume they would be, at least after the first time)?

[Alicorn]

I can't remember our thought process in there. I can try to find it in chatlog if you link me to the relevant bit of thread and I can find the date that way.

[DanielH]

The relevant bit of thread is here.