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An angel could eventually make a cat, although it'd probably still be a pretty dumb cat like a demon-made one, and it'd take forfreakingever.

The disposition of a deceased Jarvis native to Inferno-or-similar is unspecified.

AIs in Alethia or Chamomile do not get daemons because they are not the correct species; it's not a strict personhood boundary there (c.f. bears).
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could an angel make the kind of cat that miles got linya?
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I feel like it's a stretch to call the thing that Miles got Linya a "kind of cat"... XD
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An angel could make one of them, anyway, they aren't magic.
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Alicorn wrote:An angel could make one of them, anyway, they aren't magic.
Wait, does that mean that angels can make any nonmagic thing? If so, does that mean that ”intelligence above that of a snail“ is magic in that world, even though higher animals don’t get the afterlife? If there are undiscovered humanlike-intelligence nonhuman aliens (like whatever built Ice’s robot army, or various Animorph species, or anyhting from Star Trek), would they likely become daeva (and thus have a hard time remaining undiscovered), or is the afterlife system simply anthropocentric (lending weight to Max’s creationsim hypotheses)?
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Think of angels as, like, nanotech. They can make it, if they know where all its parts go and want to spend forever on it, with a Special Exception For Intelligent Things because we are playing with magic and not being reductionist.

The disposition of nonhuman sapients dying while within the purview of Inferno's afterlife system is undefined at this time.
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the not-kitty seemed to have a little bit of intelligence anyway, enough to try to assassinate miles anyway.
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I get the nonreductionism. I was more confused by the different levels for “here it’s impossible to make using nonconventional methods” and “here it deserves a spot in an afterlife”. I’d expext that, given both points existing, they would coincide as “this is the level where intelligence is magical”.

Unrelated, but inspired by my wondering about AIs: can two Limboites bring the same thing, if for some reason it isn’t shareable like the ocean, thus duplicating the thing? For example, two people bringing the same specific, unique piece of jewelery (where they didn’t share it in life; maybe one willed it to the other)? Or one person bringing a house and another inhabitant of the house bringing their favorite chair (which physically is in the house)?

Would a chair or couch likely produce an endless supply of coins and remote controls in the same way a fridge produces an endless supply of milk?
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DanielH wrote:I get the nonreductionism. I was more confused by the different levels for “here it’s impossible to make using nonconventional methods” and “here it deserves a spot in an afterlife”. I’d expext that, given both points existing, they would coincide as “this is the level where intelligence is magical”.

Unrelated, but inspired by my wondering about AIs: can two Limboites bring the same thing, if for some reason it isn’t shareable like the ocean, thus duplicating the thing? For example, two people bringing the same specific, unique piece of jewelery (where they didn’t share it in life; maybe one willed it to the other)? Or one person bringing a house and another inhabitant of the house bringing their favorite chair (which physically is in the house)?

Would a chair or couch likely produce an endless supply of coins and remote controls in the same way a fridge produces an endless supply of milk?
I think alicorn said that it is anything that isn't in some sort of publicly shared capacity could be replicated as a limbo-gift, and as far I can tell the things aren't transported from the real world, so it doesn't matter if they are unique or for that matter, if they existed in Earth before the limboite died
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I think the not-kitty's intelligence level is pretty much single-instinct: "a warm thing! snuggle warm thing. snuggle snuggle snuggle warm thing."
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