Stevens would not have sex with Jokers, therefore Jokers would not have sex with Stevens. Not even in the case (Fire and Shadow) where they can't reasonably be called relatives.
I've always been a bit confused on this: Are Jameses and Libbies the same template at different stages, or are they like the Joker-clusters? Are Libbies usually/ever nonbinary like Jameses?
Jameses and Libbies are the same template. The difference in PB is down to age. All members of the template are bigender, but to my recollection, none of them has yet chosen to express this fact onscreen in Effulgence.
tau wrote:Oh my glob this is amazing. I wonder if the Westermarck effect applies here, because Jokers. I wonder what powers they all end up with.
Did you just ask if a standard-psychology trait would prevent Jokers from having sex?
btw, would Jokers have sex with Stevens?
Well, I assume Jokers don't want to have sex with their brothers (I am assuming the brothers that turn out more-or-less fine and not terrible as some of them are wont to do), probably related to the fact that they grew up with them and all of that? And this is the Westermarck effect? Or is it just that their brothers don't want to have sex with them? Though it's possible that I am modeling a Joker brain like a normal human brain, which may be a mistake. Kappa, am I making a mistake in this regard?
But still, it's a reasonable question, even though Jokers are highly atypical neurologically, they're still close to baseline human. If they weren't close to baseline human we wouldn't be able to relate to them as characters because we couldn't model them in our brains. So it should be a reasonable question to ask whether or not Jokers are affected by things that affect humans, even though there are indications they might be immune, rather than dismissing the possibility entirely. I was reasonably curious.
It's reasonable to wonder whether or not some particular human tendency might affect Jokers. Many human tendencies do affect them, and many other ones don't, or don't in the same way/to the same degree that they affect most ordinary humans.
I think it is mostly not useful to discuss Joker attraction patterns in terms of the Westermarck effect as operative on the Jokers themselves. They tend not to be attracted to non-Joker siblings, but I'm finding it hard to describe why; they tend not to have any problem being attracted to people they grew up with when they don't conceive of each other as siblings (e.g. Sue with Aegis).
Kanims appendage less, although the more time they spend pining the appendagey-er they get. Kanim himself is not very appendagey, Kerem and Kayam are both in worse shape and have fallen into appendage status.
Ivan is just canon Ivan Vorpatril. If he sticks real well in my head I might put him in other places, but this is his original setting and the first time he's appeared in Effulgence. Similar explanations apply to his purple'd cousin Miles who will appear when kappa wakes up.
