Tron: 1982: The Irreverent Gay Version

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Tron: 1982: The Irreverent Gay Version

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ETA: This thread turned into me rambling about the Tron universe and movies for general amusement. Previously, I had dumped a bunch of unrelated plot ideas in this first post, which I have now put in spoiler boxes for the people who are not here for that.
Assassins Creed
Claudia Auditore is, in AC2 and ACB canon, Ezio's sister, and does not do a great deal beyond have a plot-motivating opinion. In ACB she also runs a brothel and learns how to use a knife and has to put up with Ezio's bullshit. I wondered how much more interesting she might get if Ezio was killed along with his father and brothers, and Claudia had to take up the mantle of Assassin. There is a sort of introductory snippet here, which I may expand on eventually. (Note that it does assume at least passing familiarity with Assassin's Creed 2 canon, and may be otherwise incredibly confusing. Happy to chat with other people about regardless of whether you've even heard of the damn thing, though.)Ezio is far less interesting mostly because there's already a series of games about him, but if Claudia ever gets to the point where she meets some alts half of them will probably have some version of Ezio, given that Claudia is herself an AU.
Dishonored
Interestingly, before I got into Effulgence/glowfic, I started to write a rather long Dishonored fic, the premise of which was that, four years after the events of the game, Low Chaos Corvo got a High Chaos alt of his dumped into his world via the local deity's shenanigans. Some of this has to do with the mechanics of the game; some of it has to do with my own interpretation of Corvo. The fic died of terminal plot failure but I can link it and its notes if anyone is interested, and the Corvos have nothing wrong with either of them as characters. And of course this all involves yet another kind of magic, because there aren't enough of those running around yet.
TRON:

I... don't really have a good excuse for this one, except that I am a huge nerd, this fandom is my baby, I will always come back to it, and as such I know the setting like the back of my hand. Most of it is outrageously stupid but a great deal of fun. Jeff Bridges also managed to be both a protagonist and an antagonist at the same time, and I have delightfully zero idea of how any of the native metaphysics would interact with the larger multiverse, including Milliways. Everything I have written for this is old and/or depressing but technically extant.
As Yet Unnamed Original Setting
(Warning for abstracted violence and one mention of cannibalism)

I have been working on this in one form or another since I was ten, and so far it has failed to coalesce into the book it was supposed to be. QED, fuck it, let's put it on the internet. TLDR, smallish society of gryphons lives on a planet where everything is made out of "magic." Plants, rocks, animals, everything. Kind of like everything is technically made out of neutrons here, I guess, but on a larger scale, molecular instead of subatomic. There are three types of person: one respires magic at a steady rate (normal, about 90% of the population), one takes in about the same amount of magic but gives off more than normal (high status but generally short-lived, about 8%), and the last takes in a slightly smaller amount than normal but gives off almost none of it (low status, 2%). Somewhere in my notes is the names for each category, but the latter are called Hungry Ones and stereotyped to be selfish, bad at empathy, etc, because the respiration of magic is a subconscious cue that the thing you're next to is alive.

Gryphons can harness the magic they give off and use it to minor effect in their world. This is, among other things, how they fly, and depending on the person and their individual aptitude, can do things like light a fire, provide minor physical or mental boosts, or stave off sleep or hunger. The 8% is generally very good at this, because they have more to work with, and as such are celebrated because they are very convenient. Hungry Ones are kind of fucked as far as society is concerned, but unknown to pretty much everyone, store the magic they take in like a biological battery and can use it to effect major changes on themselves or their environment. Most of them never figure out how to use it and it just takes their bodies a long time to decompose.

Ahj, the erstwhile protagonist, got into some trouble and accidentally teleported themself and an older adult, Iron, to Earth. In the middle of the Congress floor. During the State of the Union. The other details have varied but are roughly: trigger-happy Secret Service agent shoots Ahj in the hind leg, near the hip, shattering the bone; Iron, quick on the uptake, pounces on the gun and the agent and shoots her in the corresponding location; Ahj teleports them all "somewhere safe" (nearby) before anyone else figures out what the fuck to do. There commences a general freakout over things like "the sun is in the wrong place" and "why can't I fly" and "what the fuck are these giant cat bird things" and a stumbling attempt at communication between the two parties. Iron has to eventually amputate and cauterize whichever of Ahj's limbs no longer works. Haven't decided if either of them manage to catch anything, but either way they can't eat it and realize so pretty quickly. Also variable: whether they wind up cooking and eating the superfluous limb. Ahj is only vaguely conscious at the time and mostly gets through this by deliberately not putting the information together. Agent lady isn't happy about any of this but can't go anywhere on a broken leg and a fucked knee.

Eventually Iron gets lethargic and then passes out; they've been giving off magic but haven't been taking any in. Ahj is horrified to realize that this is because they are themselves essentially leeching magic from Iron, with no natural environmental supply to replenish it, and the resulting emotions fuel their return to their home planet. The savannah is on fire, and the survivors have a) taken shelter on the top of a cliff that used to border their territory and b) been convinced by Antagonist Dickbag that Ahj started the fire and then fucked off. Ahj, having no way to disprove this, believes they must have done it as a byproduct of the teleport, and gradually becomes more isolated and depressed because they think they've destroyed their home and everyone rightly hates them for it. Within a few days they decide to go back to Earth, where they assume they will stop existing in some form or another.

On arrival back at wherever the "safe" place was, Ahj's brain notices something is wrong, and Ahj themself eventually figures out that if the fire started as a product of the teleport, there would be signs of it at this location, which was previously the site of a departure. The obvious candidate for who actually did it is Dickbag, whose motivations... need some work on my part... and who also needs a name. Ahj jumps back to their home, grabs Dickbag, and dumps them both back on Earth, where they take advantage of the confusion to break Dickbag's wings and legs and sit just out of reach until Dickbag quite literally evaporates into a pile of mush. Since Dickbag is one of the ones that give off a lot of magic, it takes roughly two hours.

Stuff wraps up, Ahj puts out the fire by... basically vacuuming up the chemical reaction and the magic fueling it, and uses the excess to help Iron get back to normal. Since it is now very easy for Ahj to go back and forth to Earth, negotiations are set up and everyone on Earth receives the revelation that aliens exist and fuck things up just as much as humans. Agent lady, plus a cast and crutches, turns out to actually be a decent person who panicked, and teams up with Ahj to work on the language barrier, help with diplomatic stuff, and manage the eight million scientists who desperately need a crack at the new form of life. Ahj starts ferrying rocks over and carpet-bombing a building with magic to help create an embassy that more than one gryphon can stand to be in at a time. Any other loose ends go here. Eventual epilogue where human/gryphon teams in the future are using the teleporting power and other magic to find other inhabited planets and say hi.

Obvious questions: they are gryphons because I like gryphons; yes they have a reproductive system and a populated world and such, but I didn't want to infodump too badly; there are plenty of reasons this has never gone anywhere before and many of them have to do with my current dose of Prozac and the fact that it's really fucking hard to write a book anyway; if anyone is badly interested in the worldbuilding intricacies I will go find my notes from wherever they are at the other end of the house and put names to concepts.
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TRON? Tell me more.

I'm only familiar with the two movies, the first being a childhood favorite and the second being Overly Contaminated By The Matrix. But I'm curious to hear what you see to be made of it.
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(Warning, amazingly detailed spoilers for TRON continuity and an implied reference to a spoilery thing from the Samaria plot in Effulgence.)

Oh man can I talk your ear off about TRON. In the interests of not doing that, I should point out that nearly everyone (or everyone in the fandom ca 2012ish) agrees the movies are quite silly and pays some attention to the first one and much less to the second, but the worldbuilding potential is fantastic, especially with the implications of are programs people, and if so how does that change the ethics of programming? (For instance, should Clu, hypothetically, go on trial for war crimes? He would if he'd done all that to people, but does that mean we now have to prosecute anyone who resets their computer to factory standard? That would be ridiculous, and odds are the programs would agree with you, so where do you draw the line of personhood? They have opinions, hell, they have religion. Is it now unethical to alter a program in any way other than digitizing yourself and asking? Do you owe it to the... people on your laptop to reveal to them that you are not Jovah but Jehovah?)

My headcanon has always been that the Isos were the first true AIs, for a very loose definition of AI as it applies to the TRON universe - technically all programs are AIs, and it doesn't really seem to depend on the complexity of the program - Tron is a giant-ass security program and operates on the same level as Ram, who's basically a spreadsheet IIRC. Rinzler is kind of an interesting edge case because everyone pretty much has their own interpretation of how he and Tron shake out, and what exactly Clu did to him. (Nobody watched Uprising. Nobody takes Uprising as canon, including, I suspect, the people who made Uprising.) There was some vague consensus that Clu cut Tron's throat and never debugged him, that being why he doesn't/can't speak, but there is technically zero evidence for this. I myself am a fan of the notion that Clu had to use the wound to slap the Rinzler patch on top of Tron's code, because he couldn't actually change anything through Tron's disc without permission the way Alan would be able to, and fucked if Tron was gonna let him do it.

(Side note, I have an enormous rant about how much of an idiot Flynn is (spoiler: lots) on various points, one of them being the fact that he took the system that was deliberately put in place to keep programs vulnerable - discs - and applied it to his entire computer fiefdom because he never bothered to ask what was normal. Not that Tron is much better here, seeing as how he just fucking went with it, but at least that's understandable. Flynn doesn't have any such excuse. I like to think that the reason Yori isn't in the Grid is that she took one look at Flynn's prospective plans and went, ha ha wtf no.)

And then there's all the attendant fun things to do with the fact that Tron is some ~1200 subjective years old and has essentially lived through the same trauma twice, so it sure does suck to be him, plus the likelihood of programs having wildly different social norms than Users, because why wouldn't they, and the fact that, from the Grid's point of view, their god took a personal interest in them and then fucked off for months or years at a time - I can't do the math in my head anymore but one week outside is roughly a year inside, ten minutes is eight hours subjective, and one second is half a minute-ish (cycle/millicycle/microcycle, respectively). (There was some attempt made at finding a unit smaller than that, because it turns out writing is hard when you can't say somebody "thought about it for a second" or whatever, but nobody could agree on anything and as such you had to explain whatever you used to your readers in the notes in order to get anywhere. Even "microcycle" is a fandom term and not technically on the wiki, but who in the fuck measures time in units of 8 hours or larger?)

To make everything even more fun, about half of all this was a justification for porn, since the fandom (or the part of it that I was in) centered around the now sadly dead kink meme. I can probably still find most of the Big Name Works if you're interested; however, it's very late at night for me so I will just link to what I have written. Much of it is years old so please keep in mind I have become a better writer since then, and mind the warnings.

...Man, I really need to finish Damnatio Memoriae. For, y'know, all three people who are still hoping it'll update since... June of 2015. Yikes.
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That sure is an infodump which I have less idea how to make something of than I thought I would. Thanks anyway.

For what it's worth, I'll mention that my #1 beef with canon / worldbuilding potential thing is: nobody ever acknowledges that digital things can and will be copied. This is especially irritating given the ending scene of Tron: Legacy where the very last Iso is on an actual motorcycle. One could suppose a taboo, but that's too out of line with how computers are actually used.
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Man, I clearly wasn't paying enough attention when I watched Tron because I forget like all the things. Characters, worldbuilding, everything.
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unbitwise - Yeeeep, sorry about that. "In the interests of not doing that" apparently means I will do that anyway about different things. I can back up and/or explain more things if you want, but I can also shut up about it*, which is what most people want me to do at this point anyway. This is not a topic on which I am good at exercising brevity.

[*I say, and then immediately refuse to shut up about it. Sorry in advance.]

Tron and Legacy have approximately the worldbuilding potential of Twilight. There's a lot of interesting things that you have to imply or extract out of their uninteresting settings. From a Doylist perspective, there's a lot, including the copying thing, that you just kinda have to go, "Yep, that there sure is a plot hole," and move on with your life. From a Watsonian perspective, I personally would patch that hole with "Flynn is an idiot and Sam is panicking and also an idiot" - that is, I assume Flynn copied Tron from ENCOM's servers onto his own, and then promptly formed an ethical framework that can be summarized as "So programs are people, but not, y'know, people." Which is technically not false, I guess, but jesus fuck Flynn, wake up and smell the consent issues. Sam we only ever saw in the stages of "wtf this isn't happening" and "wtf this is happening" so who know what he'll get up to after a week to process everything. (Fanfic. Fanfic knows.)

I'm pretty sure Clu basically copy/pasted whatever he was using to brainwash all his soldier programs, because doing it any other way would be unwieldy and inefficient as hell, and we don't see him or anybody else doing much more than herding programs where they're supposed to go.

There's also, like, I don't have two copies of Skyrim on my computer, so while my Skyrim might be different from my friend's Skyrim (depending on how saved games change the exe and how exactly of the rest of the files, the ini and whatever, get folded into the person-program that is "Skyrim"), I don't think I could get two Skyrim-program-people running around because the computer would throw a fit about which one of them was... canon, or something. I think. Insert standard I-am-not-a-programmer disclaimer. (My dad, who is a programmer, says that the inability to have more than one of a given program on a computer is mostly a Windows invention, but ENCOM is supposed to be ersatz IBM, so... idk. Draw your own conclusions, I guess?)

You can get a lot of mileage out of the fact that, in Legacy, we only ever see Flynn's desk computer thing, which a) is from 1982, b) is non-proprietary, and c) has been screwed with by Flynn for a good eight-ish years from the inside out, therefore rendering it more or less useless as either a computer or an example. Like, he specifically made the Grid's skyline look like San Francisco, for more or less no good reason. Presumably if we hooked up, say, Sam's phone to the digitizing laser, we would see something vastly different and probably way more internally consistent with things like "how a phone is supposed to work."
the very last Iso
Interestingly, I don't think she has to be. The Isos came from the Sea, into which Clu dumped a virus as part of his coup/genocide (this is from a comic that was released to bridge the two movies, which is otherwise... not great, but I like this idea). If the virus got cleaned up, the Sea might make more Isos, or... something. Not much of an excuse for riding around on a motorcycle without a helmet, though....

Yeah, sorry, this got way too long again. I'll stop. Thank you for indulging me.

kappa - there's a wiki! I am doing a lot of this from memory because it has actually been years since I've seen either movie, but I do own both of them. If I could figure out how to get livestream to work I could host a movie night or something, that might be fun.

I wonder if I should change my icon, if I'm going to become The Tron Person. I had a few I used to use regularly.
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I would be interested in a "Tron: what is its deal" infodump/retelling if you wanted to do one of those!
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Man, you know how to get me to like you, dontcha? XD

TRON: 1982: THE IRREVERENT GAY VERSION, WHICH IS LIKE THE REAL VERSION EXCEPT WITH MORE SNARK AND FEWER WEIRD LOVE TRIANGLES

Okay, so, first movie starts in 1982. ENCOM, which is basically an IBM knockoff in that it's a Big Computer Company that does Big Computer Things, is in the final stages of testing its digitizing laser, which... puts things in a computer, or something, for some reason. It's never really explained but they do it to an orange and get the orange back, hooray. A lady named Lora is some kind of project head or otherwise heavily involved with the thing, and supervises the orange's digitization.

Meanwhile, Kevin Flynn, who used to work for ENCOM and now runs an arcade, is trying to hack into the ENCOM servers to get proof that Dillenger, who is now the CEO of ENCOM, stole a bunch of video games that Flynn made in his spare time, took credit for them, and rode that to the top while ditching Flynn. We know this information because Flynn talks to his little hacker program while trying to help it navigate the server/firewall/whatever the deal was in the 80s, and I was gonna make fun of him for that but honestly I talk to my computer too. Fallout 4 runs better with encouragement. (Also unknown: why an IBM knockoff cares about video games. But whatever.)

Anyway, the little hacker program gets fucked up by these flying tank things and deresolves, or derezzes, which is the program equivalent of dying minus a corpse - they just fade into nothing. Why this is called deresolution I don't know, but it is and we're stuck with it. Flynn is understandably frustrated, and Dillenger panics and locks out everyone with Flynn's old security clearance. This includes a whole bunch of other people, including a dude named Alan, who also works for ENCOM and has written a security program for ENCOM's servers called Tron. Alan rightfully thinks this is pretty cool of him, until he gets called up to Dillenger, the CEO's, office, and told to quit doing that mmkay and also no you can't have your clearance back. Dillenger, unsurprisingly, turns out to be sketch as hell and has an Evil AI named the Master Control Program in his touchscreen desk computer. It wants information on the Pentagon, or some shady shit like that, and didn't want the Tron program to notice all the data about, like, US military plans and whatever coming and going. Alan goes back to his cubicle and we get a quick scene of this old dude, one of ENCOM's founders, going "um this is shady as fuck and probably illegal" and Dillenger going "ok have a nice retirement by which I mean fuck you bye." We Don't Like Dillenger.

Alan and Lora get together and go, hey, I bet we know who is making trouble for us - it is Kevin I Make Trouble For Everyone Flynn. Turns out Lora used to date Flynn and is now dating Alan and therefore they all sort of know each other, so after work Lora and Alan wander on over to Flynn's arcade and attempt to get some answers out of him. Flynn uses up all his helpfulness in one scene by explaining the plot set-up and they all decide to use Lora's security clearance to find the proof Flynn says is lying around somewhere and then will you shut up about the stupid video games, Flynn, some of us have to go to work at 8 tomorrow. The rough plan basically involves using Alan's Tron program to get the data, skedaddle, and come back in the morning to... idk, wave it in Dillenger's face while he protests that he would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.

Have I mentioned yet that this movie's plot is more or less incoherent.

Blah blah blah Lora sets Flynn up at her terminal so he can point Tron in the right direction and then goes downstairs with Alan to actually sort all the grown-up computer shit out. The MCP notices what's going on and, because it's either smart enough to panic or dumb enough to think this is a good idea, zaps Flynn with the digitizing laser and hey presto now he is in the computer. Flynn shows up, gives us the great line, "This isn't happening, it only thinks it's happening," and gets taken into custody by some goons with red circuits, who are Not Very Nice in general. They stick him in a cell next to Ram, a financial program whose User, if you paid attention while Alan was wandering around ENCOM, is some guy that just so happens to look exactly like him.

Ram is incredibly fucking gay but this has, sadly, no relevance to the plot. He tells Flynn they're going to make them play video games. Flynn thinks this sounds great. Ram's estimate of Flynn's general intelligence visibly halves, because "video games," in computer-land, means they are going to fight each other to the death gladiator-style unless they join up with Team Evil. They get herded over to the second-in-command, Sark, who gives them glowing Frisbees and explains that these are discs. This more or less shakes out to being a SIM card sort of thing, plus you can kill people with it if you throw it hard enough. They dock on the program's back, between the shoulders, just for that extra creepiness factor of being unable to see who might suddenly have access to your bodily autonomy whether you want them to or not. Which, well, is kind of the point.

On the way back, in the distance, they see Tron, who is pretty damn good with a Frisbee. Ram explains that Tron "fights for the Users" and manages to keep a straight face while saying this. Flynn gets stuck in a game with some rando, plays Death Pong for a while, and gets to watch the other dude die when he refuses to kill him. Good job, Flynn. A+

Flynn gets dumped back in his cell, where it turns out Tron is also nearby. Tron is just as gay as Ram and unfortunately this has exactly the same effect on the plot, i.e. none. Flynn goes, "wtf Alan?" and Tron goes "Alan_1 is my User" and Flynn "haha yeah I knew that! (????)" Tron is kind of a religious fanatic but we love him anyway.

They get taken to the lightcycle arena, which is essentially 3v3 Death Snake and, if you watch the movie with the assumption that blue is good guys and red is bad guys, very confusing, because they fucked up the SFX so the bad guys' lightcycles are blue and the good guys' are red. This makes it kind of hard to watch but Our Heroes still manage to Snake a bad guy into one of the walls and noclip their way out of the arena. A bunch of tanks and flying tanks chase them but can't fit through the hole in the wall. I don't think the writers knew much about either video games or computers. They turn off the Snake trails, which gets them future-y motorcycles, and hide out in a cave system to take a breather. Tron sees an I/O (input/output) tower in the distance and accepts the quest on the group's behalf, or something.

They also, because this was the 80s and everyone is in skintight clothing, find an underground wellspring of "pure energy," which means water that glows, and produce about a minute and a half's worth of a pornography audio track. Unfortunately I cannot find this on Youtube but it's the second funniest thing I've ever seen. Fandom got a lot of mileage out of that.

Anyway, they head out for the tower but Flynn and Ram get shot by one of the tank things and split up from Tron, who heads off on his own because, well, what else is he gonna do. Flynn and Ram hide out in a pile of junk that turns out to be an old Recognizer (flying tank thing), which Flynn juices up and puts back together because Users are magic or something. Ram is kinda down for the count, and extracts both the information that Flynn is a User and a promise that he'll help Tron get rid of the MCP on the incredibly convincing argument that look I'm dying here. Flynn looks very badly like he wants to kiss Ram but doesn't work up the nerve to do it before Ram derezzes. This is supposedly very sad buuuut I'm pretty sure there's a backup or three of him somewhere. Especially because his User still works at ENCOM. Flynn sorts his ~feelings~ out and heads off in the Recognizer in the general direction of the I/O tower.

Tron, who has... given them up for dead? I guess? Damn cold of him but oh well - goes and finds Yori, Lora's program, who runs the computer monorail thing called a Solar Sailer, which, yes, is spelled with an E and not an O, and no, does not run on sunlight or anything like it because there isn't a sun. I don't really have any idea what the Sailer is supposed to be an analogue for in an actual computer and I suspect that the writers didn't either, but it sure does look neat. Tron and Yori take off thataway.

(There is a deleted scene somewhere around here, which was deleted because it is the funniest thing I have ever seen, because it's of both of them going back to Yori's apartment to bang. Only they're programs and it was the 80s so this involves a really weird scarf shawl thing and manipulation of each other's circuits? It doesn't make any sense, it's hilarious, and while the circuit-sex thing can be used to decent effect, as was enthusiastically proven by the subsequent fandom, it certainly was not here.)

Flynn is still wandering around a city-like place and runs smack into the tail end of a group of guards. He jumps one of them and... steals his... life force? Or something? Anyway, Flynn's circuits turn red and the guy derezzes. Nothing else bad happens, it's just cosmetic. Flynn falls in line with the guards on the kind of flimsy logic that they're probably going after Tron, and is conveniently correct. He meets back up with Tron and Yori, fades back to blue, explains that Ram is dead and he's a User, and does some mojo with the Sailer monorail thing to get the guards off their back. Tron has a small existential crisis and I think falls in love with Flynn a little, though I also suspect that given how touchy-feely Flynn is he's accidentally giving off the same subtext that Jokers habitually give out as text. Yori pays zero attention to any of this nonsense.

There is regrouping and some vague planning. They hit up the I/O tower and Tron gets instructions from Alan in a sort of quasi-ritualistic thing that is supposed to stand it for however it works in real life. On the way out, Sark shows up and captures them all. Tron escapes and fucks off on his own again, because wow apparently he knows what his priorities are. Flynn and Yori are left on the ship while it derezzes around them, but Flynn does some User mojo again and saves both of them and the ship. This involves kissing Yori because I guess why not, and she's like, "hmm that's nice" and proceeds to give zero fucks. I love Yori.

They catch up with Tron, who for the second time in as many hours is delighted to discover that the people he left for dead are doing fine, and vice versa, and he goes on to have a Boss Battle with Sark. Halfway through Sark triggers his trap card and turns into a giant, which doesn't actually do a whole lot for him because Tron is a dab hand with a Death Frisbee and you gave him a throwing weapon, dumbass. Sark derezzes and the MCP starts to go nuts, so to stop it Flynn jumps into the power source thing that houses the MCP. Why he expects this to work and whether he expects to survive this move, I don't know, but it does and he does, and it spits him out back in the analog world and prints out a piece of paper that says something to the effect of "Flynn did the work and Dillenger stole it" which is damning evidence because nobody has ever printed anything false on a piece of paper in Courier New before. There's a bit of a time skip during which this gets, presumably, proven, and then Flynn gets made CEO because that is 100% how businesses work. He either thinks he dreamed the whole thing, has convinced himself it didn't actually happen, or deliberately decides to keep quiet about it, apparently. Roll credits.

I will do the sequel too if I have been sufficiently informative and/or entertaining, but I must eat something first.
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This was an amazing journey and I am both informed and entertained. I look forward to the sequel.
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ok i'm gonna assume that 'Invitation to Deflate' includes the above post so here is a pile o' nitpicks and further commentary mostly based on the premise that i know computers and i totally watched TRON a zillion times when i was little (and skipped over the torture scene at the beginning).
Meanwhile, Kevin Flynn, who used to work for ENCOM and now runs an arcade, is trying to hack into the ENCOM servers to get proof that Dillenger, who is now the CEO of ENCOM, stole a bunch of video games that Flynn made in his spare time, took credit for them, and rode that to the top while ditching Flynn. We know this information because Flynn talks to his little hacker program while trying to help it navigate the server/firewall/whatever the deal was …
Given the era, I expect that the idea was that ENCOM had not “servers” but a mainframe computer — that is, ONE REALLY BIG (for its time) COMPUTER. All the action happens between programs/processes/terminals/other resources on that one big computer. So “navigate the server” is closer than “navigate the firewall”.
Dillenger, unsurprisingly, turns out to be sketch as hell and has an Evil AI named the Master Control Program in his touchscreen desk computer.
I expect that Dillinger had a terminal in his desk — the Master Control Program is running on the mainframe (and, to unwarrantedly use UNIX terminology, as root) and merely talking to Dillinger at his desk.
Have I mentioned yet that this movie's plot is more or less incoherent.
I blame the grid bugs.
The MCP notices what's going on and, because it's either smart enough to panic or dumb enough to think this is a good idea, zaps Flynn with the digitizing laser and hey presto now he is in the computer.
What I want to know is why did they install a terminal in the beam path?
They get herded over to the second-in-command, Sark, who gives them glowing Frisbees and explains that these are discs. This more or less shakes out to being a SIM card sort of thing, plus you can kill people with it if you throw it hard enough.
Whoa. SIM cards are a great analogy.
They turn off the Snake trails, which gets them future-y motorcycles, and hide out in a cave system to take a breather.
IIRC, the trails go away exactly when they exit the arena, so possibly they're a feature of the arena rather than the cycles.
Anyway, they head out for the tower but Flynn and Ram get shot by one of the tank things and split up from Tron, who heads off on his own because, well, what else is he gonna do. Flynn and Ram hide out in a pile of junk that turns out to be an old Recognizer (flying tank thing), which Flynn juices up and puts back together because Users are magic or something.
These days, the things that interpret user input are just more programs; in older systems there was, one way or another, a lot less intermediation between the user input and the workings of the operating system and even the physical CPU. It's quite possible that a user could have “magic” abilities from the perspective of a program —

— except that this argument totally doesn't make sense to apply to a digitized User on the inside of the system. So it's got to be ordinary interprocess interactions with different access bits. Wow, that digitization system sure is DWIM.

Regardless of how we explain it, Users Are Weird And Possibly Magic is a nifty element.
Tron, who has... given them up for dead? I guess? Damn cold of him but oh well - goes and finds Yori, Lora's program, who runs the computer monorail thing called a Solar Sailer, which, yes, is spelled with an E and not an O, and no, does not run on sunlight or anything like it because there isn't a sun. I don't really have any idea what the Sailer is supposed to be an analogue for in an actual computer and I suspect that the writers didn't either, but it sure does look neat.
You dropped a word: it's the Solar Sailer Simulator. So I assume it runs on the same stuff as all the video game stuff simulating motorcycles and tanks. Of course, it still makes no sense in that suns do not (naturally) make SOLID ENERGY BEAMS.
Flynn is still wandering around a city-like place and runs smack into the tail end of a group of guards. He jumps one of them and... steals his... life force? Or something? Anyway, Flynn's circuits turn red and the guy derezzes.
I always took that as stealing credentials ("I Am On The Red Team, Honest"), and the derezzing was going to happen regardless.
There is regrouping and some vague planning. They hit up the I/O tower and Tron gets instructions from Alan in a sort of quasi-ritualistic thing that is supposed to stand it for however it works in real life.
I actually think that it's a pretty good analogy. IO devices require particular system calls, are super-slow compared to the ordinary run of instruction execution…
Sark derezzes and the MCP starts to go nuts, so to stop it Flynn jumps into the power source thing that houses the MCP. Why he expects this to work and whether he expects to survive this move, I don't know, but it does and he does,
I can only assume that Flynn's Userness gives him some sort of super intuition for how to make things happen when he really has to and doesn't think about it too hard (see also the turning-red thing).

As to why it should work: The MCP's proper operation has been disrupted and Flynn puts himself/his code in the MCP's process, taking over all of its privileges (and of course changing the color scheme). Then he's root and can do whatever he likes, namely complete the original mission and trigger the laser.

And note that the MCP is a beam into the sky just like the regular I/O towers, so one imagines that one of the things it has is dedicated I/O access (to Dillinger's office terminal among other things).
and it spits him out back in the analog world and prints out a piece of paper that says something to the effect of "Flynn did the work and Dillenger stole it" which is damning evidence because nobody has ever printed anything false on a piece of paper in Courier New before.
Note that the same text was also displayed on Dillinger's terminal (which is how he learns that he is DOOMED). I assume that the information was Irrevocably Made Available To All Users Of the ENCOM System and the piece of paper was merely one instantiation of it.
He either thinks he dreamed the whole thing, has convinced himself it didn't actually happen, or deliberately decides to keep quiet about it, apparently. Roll credits.
I assumed he told his friends everything, given his using the line "Greetings, programs!" at the end. Of course, whether they believe him (and whether anyone's willing to step in front of the laser to test it out…)
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