Elfthreads!

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Not guilty of genocide but guilty of conspiracy to commit same is still weird.
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maybe because he figured out a way to put the maiar/valar back, but didn't know he'd be able to going in?
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I'd think "guilty of conspiracy to X but not of X" would mean that your co-conspirator did the X? Or perhaps that the X did not successfully happen (in which case you might also be guilty of attempted X?)
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Typo in or around this reply in "took your time": Conner or Connor?

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The way the Valian courts hold is that a genocide conviction requires either 1) actually wiping out most of or all of a species or race or ethnic group as a consequence of actions taken intentionally, regardless of whether you wanted that outcome or just considered it acceptable collateral damage or 2) having that as a goal and taking substantive steps to accomplish it. Cam obviously didn't want the outcome, so he'd be guilty of genocide iff the people he killed had stayed dead. He is guilty of conspiracy to commit genocide because when he did it he thought they would.

/War crimes/ he isn't guilty of at all because the destruction of Valinor has been ruled not one under the circumstances, and he's also not guilty of conspiracy to commit it because the same considerations that made it not a war crime were all accessible when he did it. Acquitted of murder for the same reason.

This legal system doesn't map exactly to ours but was designed to be convincingly A Legal System Equipped To Do War Crimes Trials for an audience from Revelation so it borrows generously.
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Man, what is with people who are willing to do shitty things and the Pegasus Cycle?
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Was it Caranthir or Curufin who knows the Dwarves' secret language? Because if it's Caranthir he might have taught it to an angel here.
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I’m pretty sure it was Caranthir, with Curufin probably allowed to know just like Fëanor is.
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the thing I am regretting is not dating you, it is failing to have set up a trust with your universal income and the money to pay for Ruviri in your name and had some lawyers not under my authority come over to explain it to you, and having somebody meet with you to explain how you could pursue a complaint against me through our legal system should you have one, and formally getting you citizenship three places that would be willing to pick a fight with me over it.
I note that Bright has still not actually done any of these four things (or six if you count each citizenship separately) despite saying he regrets not doing them.
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True, most but I don’t think all are still useful even separate from appearances.

Forever is a really long time to accidentally brush against people in; there are redmage daeva who probably would not want to become as dwindled as Wiar is, and he doesn’t seem happy on a moment-to-moment basis either. They effectively have a time limit for the improved necklaces.
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