Cooperative Zendo

Not the kind with cardstock and pawns. Mostly play by post Mafia so far.
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DanielH
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

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And, just because, here are the other four:

Yes: c, e, f
No: d

I’m sure you notice how this koan ratio is much greater than for the other strings. It turns out kuuskytkolme’s guesses might have given useful information in addition to entertainment.
Information
Initial post: http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewto ... 366#p28366
SHA-1: 074b5f19b6226a5ef8e524985218f102e41fc5f5

Yes:
(the empty string)
0
1
10
2
4
5
6
7
8
9
a
b
c
e
e4
f
f1
f5
f8
fc

No:
00
000
001
00100
01
010
100
11
111
3
8badf00d
900dd09
abba
b4
c007d00d
c4
cafebabe
d
d15ea5e
d1efa57
d4
deadbeef
decade
decaf
f1d0
f2
f3
f4
f6
f7
f9
fa
faceb00c
fb
fd
fe
ff
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Post by Kappa »

4c
65
61
72
6e
20
48
78
64
63
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

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All no

I didn’t realize when I made this rule quite how few strings were accepted.
Information
Initial post: http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewto ... 366#p28366
SHA-1: 074b5f19b6226a5ef8e524985218f102e41fc5f5

Yes:
(the empty string)
0
1
10
2
4
5
6
7
8
9
a
b
c
e
e4
f
f1
f5
f8
fc

No:
00
000
001
00100
01
010
100
11
111
20
3
48
4c
61
63
64
65
6e
72
78
8badf00d
900dd09
abba
b4
c007d00d
c4
cafebabe
d
d15ea5e
d1efa57
d4
deadbeef
decade
decaf
f1d0
f2
f3
f4
f6
f7
f9
fa
faceb00c
fb
fd
fe
ff
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

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Because of how few strings are accepted, I’ll give you a free one:

Yes: 98521
Information
Initial post: http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewto ... 366#p28366
SHA-1: 074b5f19b6226a5ef8e524985218f102e41fc5f5

Yes:
(the empty string)
0
1
10
2
4
5
6
7
8
9
98521
a
b
c
e
e4
f
f1
f5
f8
fc

No:
00
000
001
00100
01
010
100
11
111
20
3
48
4c
61
63
64
65
6e
72
78
8badf00d
900dd09
abba
b4
c007d00d
c4
cafebabe
d
d15ea5e
d1efa57
d4
deadbeef
decade
decaf
f1d0
f2
f3
f4
f6
f7
f9
fa
faceb00c
fb
fd
fe
ff
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

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Possible properties:

All characters are in descending hex-digit order.
Never contains 3.
Never contains d.
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

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Would people like me to continue what Unbitwise did of confirming superset/subset properties like this?
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

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It makes it easier to make definite incremental progress. Whether that is a good thing for the game depends on how hard the rule is.

If you do:

I suggest that only explicit and valid Guesses should get such answers. I also think that saying subset/superset is best considered as syntactic sugar on "the master provides both a yes and a no counterexample to the guess, if possible".
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

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02
20
03
30
04
40
05
50
06
60
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

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Yes: 02
No: 03, 04, 05, 06, 20 (repeated), 30, 40, 50, 60
Information
Initial post: http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewto ... 366#p28366
SHA-1: 074b5f19b6226a5ef8e524985218f102e41fc5f5

Yes:
(the empty string)
0
02
1
10
2
4
5
6
7
8
9
98521
a
b
c
e
e4
f
f1
f5
f8
fc

No:
00
000
001
00100
01
010
03
04
05
06
100
11
111
20
3
30
40
48
4c
50
60
61
63
64
65
6e
72
78
8badf00d
900dd09
abba
b4
c007d00d
c4
cafebabe
d
d15ea5e
d1efa57
d4
deadbeef
decade
decaf
f1d0
f2
f3
f4
f6
f7
f9
fa
faceb00c
fb
fd
fe
ff
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Post by Lambda »

0a
a0
0b
b0
0c
c0
22
33
44
55
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