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[Alicorn]

We need subplots for Unbreakable Vow! We have an Overarching Plot but our heroes are currently too smol and if we didn't do anything but foreshadow the Overarching Plot for the next several in-story years that would be boring and stupid. The Triwizard Tournament was discontinued in 1792 so we can't do that. (It's 1800.) What subplots would you like to see that are bigger than "Miranda yells at people in Igbo and discusses world domination with Timothy" and smaller than ""?

[Kappa]

Hmm, things I would like to see in Unbreakable Vow and/or idle notions for same...

- More onscreen assorted Ways, they're all so good

- Exploration of the curriculum and how it differs from more modern wizarding stuff maybe? Current events stuff where politics is occurring and familiar items are being invented and popularized?

- You could do an Heir of Slytherin scare maybe?

- What's Nicholas Flamel up to at the moment?

- Assorted magical theory research interests could lead to intriguing minor discoveries or rediscoveries, giving our smol nerds something to talk about, like the thing with levitation charms

[jalapeno_dude]

I want to hear about the French revolution and Napoleon! Seems like it should be something Timothy, at least, would be very interested in. Did French wizards have an equivalent of the Declaration of the Rights of Man? Is there a parallel Wizard conflict going on just like there was for Grindelwald/WW2? (Maybe the the Triwizard Tournament was discontinued in 1792 precisely because Beauxbatons was now the enemy...)

(Speaking of magic and Napoleon, I hope everyone here has already read Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell?)

[Kappa]

Ooh heck yes french revolution

[Marri]

Start of Animagus registration? I don't think it's ever noted when that first gets implemented.

[jalapeno_dude]

409,344,021. Pause. 409,344,027.

(here, the number of "longest written works from all worlds that use Quenya and reference a Melkor or Morgoth" that Bar is aware of)

*Puts semi-serious anthropic reasoning hat on* During the pause the number of worlds grew by 6, so if that is a typical amount to increment in that subjective time it would have been at zero only ~2 years ago. That is, given this assumption more than half of the worlds that meet these criteria met them for the first time only around a year ago. But that isn't true for any of the Ardas of the participants in the thread (which would have met it shortly after writing was invented). So their worlds are a very atypical subset of these 400 million. Atypicality demands an explanation. One possible explanation is that the number typically increases by a much smaller amount in the length of that pause, so most worlds met the criteria much longer ago, and our heroes are being fucked with. Another (the correct one, metafictionally...) is that most worlds really have been created in the last short period of time, i.e. staying in the bar for a long period of time caused lots of Ardas to start getting created. This is the No Free Lunch theory--in this case the inhabitants of the bar are almost certainly doing much more harm by staying in the bar if you believe that worlds with Melkors have net negative utility (which Maedhros seems to believe but, admittedly, Eru doesn't).

EDIT: Had not read to the end of the thread when I posted this, I see that some of this is being discussed there (e.g. whether the bar inhabitants are typical of some smaller subset but not the whole group).

[Kappa]

During the pause the number of worlds grew by 6 but then over the next quite-a-while the number didn't grow at all. The number seems to grow super unevenly.

[jalapeno_dude]

During the pause the number of worlds grew by 6 but then over the next quite-a-while the number didn't grow at all. The number seems to grow super unevenly.

Yeah, just saw that.

[DanielH]

Rappaport's Law establishing much higher separation of wizards and No-Majs (Muggles), was passed a decade ago in the Americas. If Miranda looks into the situation there, perhaps because of the recent conversation, she will see that. I’m curious about her thoughts.

Miranda, despite avoiding discussing him in Slytherin and elsewhere, does presumably have a father. Information about him could become public somehow.

Merpeople sing, and speak in what sounds like English when underwater and like a nonhuman language above water. Multiple Ways should be interested.

Borrow from other wix Bells: dementors, animagi, alchemy, learning Oclumancy

Also is this an AU where the train was invented 50 years earlier (perhaps because Feanor exists), or does 1800 mean late 1800s, or did you do less history research than usual? The invention date of the train is debatable but after 1800 and King’s Cross first opened a temporary platform in 1850.

[DanielH]

Also, an upcoming event might give ideas for some interesting things before that event:

[quote=Newt Scamander]Not until 1811 were definitions found that most of the magical community found acceptable. Grogan Stump, the newly appointed Minister for Magic, decreed that a “being” was “any creature that has sufficient intelligence to understand the laws of the magical community and to bear part of the responsibility in shaping those laws.”

[...]

Naturally, the matter has not rested there. We are all familiar with the extremists who campaign for the classification of Muggles as “beasts”; we are all aware that the centaurs have refused “being” status and requested to remain “beasts”[/quote]

It doesn’t say what the situation was before that.