Eclipse Worldbuilding Info

[Kappa]

She disagrees with you about when it is appropriate for her to escape the universe.

[anthusiasm]

@Alicorn do you have dynamics for any other green characters in mind?

Also, because apparently this is a thing we're doing, Etsuki is a dom, Sam is a sub, Henry is a switch depending on his partners' preferences, Cara is a dom but she just cannot take BDSM sex seriously. (The meta-template, anyway, I have no idea if this would extend to her hypothetical Eclipse-instance).

[Alicorn]

I haven't systematically gone through a list. It did occur to me to wonder about Ivans when kappa went through the Barrayarans. Ivans are not usually willing to be quite so bisexual; they tend to have a strong lean - but apparently as long as they have something else to have a strong lean about, Everyone Is Bi is okay by them, so Ivans present dom perfectly comfortably and will discreetly switch if subs are hard to come by or they have a switchy sub. It's possible that girl Ivans reverse this but I haven't ever actually onscreened an Ivana so I don't know confidently about that.

[DanielH]

@Kappa I think you're saying she would escape the universe before eclipsing? I thought the magic attractor was so strong she would need to stay long enough for magic. I wasn’t saying she needed magic to escape. If a lunar eclipse in a different universe were just as effective or if she escaped in such a way that she could visit, I would think she could get out of there much sooner.

Or does the template think she should leave just after an early eclipse, even before having any time to learn control?

[Kappa]

Matilda has an attractor for achieving phenomenal cosmic power, but it's by no means inviolable (Piper in Tayane is hardly cosmic), and it also leans toward more of it than usual. If she wouldn't be some kind of perfectly-controlled-in-less-than-three-months prodigy, or an unprecedented mage/psion combination, or anything of that nature, she is just as likely to escape that universe at age six and get to a nicer one where she will have more magic and fewer societal discomforts.

[Alicorn]

I think my characters may be more generically responsive to being told "this is your normal. where do you go?" and some other people's characters, kappa's in particular, refuse to be told in this way what their normal is XD

[Alicorn]

Went down a list, ask if it misses anybody you're curious about:

Alexes: ace, nondynamic, present dom to avoid harassment and hassle, a girl one might present sub instead especially if her sister was accessible to fend off dickheads but the instantiated one is a boy

Alice: Dom, not a switch Deep Down but enjoys dating switches and mixing it up a bit for fun.

Carlisle: Dom, in a very sweet looking-after-partner way.

Chelsea: Switch, presents sub if that's more convenient.

Edward: Sub but awkward about it.

Elspeth: Lowkey dom, retains very low sex drive though.

Emmett: Switch.

Esme: Sub, finds standard issue doms scary.

Griffin: Awkward, underconfident, but dom.

Jasper: Switch, pretends dom.

Kanim: Sub.

Kerron: Dom.

Minnie: Sub. And a huge brat.

Nathan: Dom.

Rosalie: Dom.

Soph: Sub.

Zeus: Sub but can do service toppy stuff quite comfortably.

[Moriwen]

Thinking more about what kinds of magic mine would have in Eclipse...

Sapphire and Steel are a psion/mage (respectively) team who work for the government dealing with Incidents with other eclipsed. Silver doesn't get magic but works in the same office, probably doing some kind of techy thing.

Jean doesn't tend to go for magic and this is no exception.

Faith is the most exciting, since her big attractor is "out of control magic." Timetable for Eclipse magic is wrong for Em and Reuben's attractors so they don't get any, but Faith definitely does. Another friend of theirs (John; also a template but inevitably dead before the start of the story) messes up in the process of eclipsing, accidentally kills someone, and gets shot by Incompetent Small Town Police instead of getting shut down by a nice neighborhood psion. Faith is fairly traumatized by this and thus not a fan of The Authorities, and decides she wants to do her eclipsing the traditional way if she gets magic. Reuben is sympathetic to the trauma and likes traditions, and Em thinks the idea is dangerous and thus exciting, so they decide to help Faith out.

So on the night of the eclipse they inform the relevant parents that they're staying at each other's houses, and smuggle Faith out into the desert with some provisions. She gets psionics, they leave her there, go home, make up a story about her being really disappointed not to get magic and running away, and keep showing back up with food when they can. Faith does OK but decides she has it under control way before she actually does, and her main talent is "magically convincing people that I am right" not, like, "exploding things," so the precogs don't pick up on it and she heads back to civilization and involuntarily messes around with people's minds. (Reuben and Em are not thrilled about this but she has magic and they don't so they don't end up being able to do a lot about it.)

[MaggieoftheOwls]

Is it, like, at all plausible for Edie to be a psion and Emily to be a mage?

[Adelene]

Is it, like, at all plausible for Edie to be a psion and Emily to be a mage?

1:1,000 chance each means 1:1,000,000 chance for both. There are about 132,000 sets of twins born in the US every year ([source]), so a twin pair both being eclipsed would happen about once every 7 or 8 years in the US; significantly more often worldwide but that probably doesn't matter for this purpose.

(ETA: This assumes that twins all survive their childhoods, which is obviously not true (I think they have a higher rate of medical issues than singlets, and those don't all survive either) - it's probably closer to one eclipsed US twin pair every decade or something.)