Sandbox Discussions

[Ezra]

If you can name Echidna-clones well enough for fairy orders, Echidna and Promise could be quite the team-up.

[DanielH]

Except that, as I understand it, Bonesaw’s grammar wasn’t quite right. The clone spawning thing is evil, but the human it is attached to is not. I don’t think Promise could order around the evil part. Do I misunderstand?

[Ezra]

As long as you can name and order the clones themselves, that shouldn't matter?

[DanielH]

It depends on how intelligent the evil part is, which I don’t know.

[futurevision]

Would a Promise clone be named Promise? Also, would she know Promise's name?

[Alicorn]

A Promise clone would be named Alisyrrabel and of COURSE she would know Promise's name. (Although we're kind of divided on whether fairies clone normally at all.)

[MaggieoftheOwls]

What happens if you Noelle-clone a Bell that is cloneable? Do you get a Bell or something more like VampireJuliet?

[Alicorn]

More dangerous than vampire!Juliet. Cloning doesn't just remove certain inhibiting factors, it produces active goals to fuck everything up for the original and so on. (Also doesn't leave the clones with a ton of self-preservation, but that wouldn't make her that much less dangerous.) Someone with Bell agentiness who wants to minimize the utility of the original goes fast and hard and creative, she doesn't just fail to take no for an answer from nearby Minus.

[MaggieoftheOwls]

Personally I meant more in terms of psychology than actual danger level, but I can see how that wouldn't be clear.

Wouldn't it make sense for Promise to at least run through all the human name-syllables she already has for the Nine, even if she hasn't yet decided to try asking for more general human names? It wouldn't get all of them, but I think she could at least get Riley with the Lee from Oni Lee.

[Alicorn]

I don't have a sufficient reason to put a model of a Bell through Echidna cloning and it'd be kind of complicated. I'm mostly guessing with the cloned Vickies.

Oni Lee was got with "ni", not "Lee". ("Oni" is a (Japanese) word, but he'd just stabbed her a lot so she was thinking about it.) She does remember the syllable Lee from same, but it's emphasized, both in "Oni Lee" and in "Liam", and it's not emphasized in "Riley". We don't have a last (or middle) name for Riley, but none of the syllables in the names on my list fit with the first name as-is. Promise could get it with only emphasis-reassignment, though.