Short Stories Mafia Game Thread

[Eva]

So Paradox is not willing to fullclaim with PM, or is really not paying attention.

In any case, I'd like to say that I'm counterclaiming Paradox as the actual real Miller.

(Note: I am not certain wether I am actually a miller from my rolePM, but it seems pretty likely to me considering the character I was given. I'd welcome an investigator to check wether I detect as scum. And if Alicorn has put two millers in the same game then I will be annoyed, but I feel that this is unlikely enough to be worth my roleclaiming.)

[pistachi0n]

BSS, I have no add ons to my win condition and the power says least aligned with town. But I can will use you as a control of it will make you guys trust me more. I'll re vote Paradox and then you after this post.

Eva--my power might work on checking you out. Because I don't get a PM saying "x is mafia." I can do that tomorrow.

[pistachi0n]

vote Paradox

[pistachi0n]

vote BlueSkySprite

[Paradox]

So Paradox is not willing to fullclaim with PM, or is really not paying attention.

In any case, I'd like to say that I'm counterclaiming Paradox as the actual real Miller.

(Note: I am not certain wether I am actually a miller from my rolePM, but it seems pretty likely to me considering the character I was given. I'd welcome an investigator to check wether I detect as scum. And if Alicorn has put two millers in the same game then I will be annoyed, but I feel that this is unlikely enough to be worth my roleclaiming.)

I've been sleeping most of the time since you made your first post asking me to post a fullclaim with PM, when I saw the first request I was going to but now I suspect you are making it so you can use it to forge a miller PM for yourself. So I'm less inclined to post it. This posts makes me think that you are nearly certainly a maifa or independent so:

Vote Eva

Sorry if you are actually not mafia, Paradox. I think you probably are mafia, given that you showed up that way to an investigation. I'm not entirely sure, but I think the best strategy for situations like that is to say that you will show up as mafia before somebody investigates you, so that it doesn't look like you are just using a safe-claim once you've already been found out. (This is something crypto might be useful for if it was allowed and easier to use correctly.) Also, from the one mafioso we've seen so far, it looks like the mafia is possibly demons, which Ceet couldn't really be mistaken for.

So I think the right thing to do is bring you to mob-justice, but I am actually sorry if you are not mafia. It might help your case some to quote a role-PM, but a mafia member could still probably fake a role-PM too.

You're right about the best strategy in general and I definitely thought about doing that but I have been worried about fairies all game. I definitely thought we had at least one fairy at the start of the game and even after the death of The Queen I thought it was reasonably likely that there were more around (we don't know exactly how fairy powers might work so I'm still kinda worried about ending up under fairy control come nightfall).

As an aside Eva has expressed much less concern about fairies and has even encouraged people to do a full roleclaim so it is unclear why she would not have revealed her name and role earlier than now if she really was a miller. He roleclaim is also much more vague than mine.I think that those facts combined should show that she is more likely to be scum fakeclaiming miller than I am so I would suggest lynching Eva today and if she turns out to be town/a miller I'll accept being lynched tomorrow (there's a small chance there's two millers but that seems really unlikely).

I doubt all the mafia are demons, I think it's more likely that the mafia members are from multiple short stories.

You seem to think it's a good idea to quote my PM and since I think you are actually town I will do so:

You are TOWN, and win when all the scum are dead.

You are CEET MORUL and you always end up being suspected of crimes that have nothing to do with you. You will appear as mafia to any investigative roles that may be in this game.

[Eva]

Okay then, either I am not a miller or Paradox is lying, because here is my rolePM:

You are HARRIET. You are TOWN, and win when all the scum are dead. Get a move on, you have important subversion of genre convention to do.

(Considering Harriet's role as an-earthfic-writer-writing-fantasy I think it is likely for her to be a miller. If I turn out to be one, then that means Paradox's rolePM is definitely forged, since mine is nowhere near as clear about my millerdom.)

[HybridZizi]

I am pretty skeptical even with the PM. I feel like you'd want to claim it early to avoid exactly this. Also, the PM is formatted different from how mine was which might just be a random difference but I suspect they'd be formatted in more or less the same way (I guess there's no way to check that unless we all post our own PMs, which we're mostly not doing. Is that still because fairies or are there more reasons?). This formatting looks like Yadal's did with the town win condition tacked on at the start. Mine didn't look like that.

vote Paradox

Though I am a little suspicious of Eva. I was a little suspicious of her day 1, though I think a lot of that was new-to-the-game. Her now claiming the miller role seems a little opportunistic to me, though. Like there was a realization investigators could find her followed by the realization that this roleclaim could help divert suspicion. I want to note the suspicion and keep an eye on it. I would say "someone should investigate her" only she's just told us she will probably come up scum and given an excuse why it's not true.

(edited to bold vote)

[Eva]

Regarding claiming early as miller: I agree that that can be a good strategy in some cases, but it's also a good way to hand the scum an easy mislynch early on. I've waited this long with some trepidation (that almost-investigation by Pistachi0n on day two could have been really hard to explain), but I doubt that I will ever get a better chance to claim than now, when I get to be the nail in the coffin of a lying scum. (Plus, I really want to avoid the scenario of 'it's the last day, Pistachi0n finally investigated me the day before, and we hand the game to the scum off of my claiming Miller too late.' That is an obvious and nasty failure mode.)

[Tamien]

Paradox's PM has the same structure as mine, and I am starting to strongly suspect that Something Is Up.

Unvote Paradox

until BSS can tell me more about their role, which will hopefully be very soon, because I will be heading to the airport in the next couple hours.

My prior suspicion rankings should be considered highly inaccurate at this point. I will be doing my utmost to get enough free computer time to update them.

Eva has gone up on my suspect list due to sketchy Miller claiming from weak PM evidence. BSS has gone up for reasons I don't want to disclose until I hear back from them. Paradox has gone down. I would like to see much more participation from everyone before I'm cut off from the internet.

[Eva]

Oh, and regarding PM style considerations, THE IMMORTAL posted their PM earlier, so everyone other than me should have a sample size of three to compare against Paradox's now. (And I'm pretty suspicious of his PM even with only my own and THE IMMORTAL's PMs to look at.)