Elcenia Mafia Game Thread

[modrony]

Thanks.

@Paradox: did you try to interpret it?
Would have been a really nice coincidence if you had gotten it instead. (Thou it might have led to a lot of confusion later)

[Shoal]

my theory about the demon is that they need to survive to the end. every other night they jump to a new target. if they’re lynched either day or if they’re nightkilled on the first night they’re in a body then the demon loses. if they survive until the end then everyone who was demonned wins. i dont know if i’m right. that’s just my guess. i think it’s either paradox or michael for the demon but the mafia is the bigger threat, unless we can kill two birds with one stone.

my case against paradox was made before jalapeno started the sasnil thing and so my suspicions against paradox are my own.

preview edit: i would like to know that too.

[Shoal]

Unofficial vote count:
not voting: 1 (michaelblume)
Shoal: 1 (tamien)
Paradox: 1 (jalapeno_dude,)
Tamien: 4 paradox, modrony, anthusiasm, shoal

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[Shoal]

and you’re right about reaction tests. we all do them. sometimes we get false positives but i think in LYLO especially there is merit to them.

[jalapeno_dude]

Okay, I just woke up and skimmed the thread (Shoal I'm sorry but I basically skipped past all your stuff because it's too long, will try to go back and look at it later).

Modrony, obviously I can't *prove* I'm Saasnil because there are other vanilla Townies on the list. I think the world in which I'm Mafia and lying about Saasnil looks very different from this one, though:
-My reaction to your analysis of my listpost was intended to point you at Saasnil. I guess I could have done that if I was Mafia and had dastardly plans, but that's not why I did it.
-My list looks like "Saasnil plus 14 random other people", because that's what it is. If I were a Mafia member making the post in order to be able to accuse people of this, most of my names would have overlapped with those on other rolelists. That's not what it looks like--it has weird obscure people like Melykor and Cyranna and Simnelkoedh, because the names were generated randomly. In fact I think the only other plausible vanilla townies on my list were Ryll and Thiris, and both of them I guessed would have powers.
-So you'd have to believe I targeted my listpost to specifically refute Paradox's, anticipating that all of the other roles on their list would be eliminated and that we'd both live long enough for it to matter. That's literally insane. If I were Mafia (which I'm not) and thought that they were so important I would just have killed them.



Paradox, that roleclaim is compelling (it's a genuine hole in my argument for you being Mafia), but I have a couple of problems with it:
-It would have been much more convincing if it was posted immediately after Tamien roleclaimed. I don't understand *at all* why you waited this long and it makes me very suspicious of you.
-You didn't actually give any verifiable information in your post, because you knew modrony hadn't monitored you. Even despite that fact you have to explain away why your supposed potion didn't save Kappa last night. I think you're lying.

[Shoal]

that’s a good point about paradox.

with regard to my stuff, the part outside the spoiler boxes is more important than the part inside it. the inside is an analysis of every single post a person made in the game. the outside is the conclusion. i think it’s only worth reading the inside part if you disagree with the conclusion but with only an hour left on the clock i think there are better ways to spend your time than reading my posts.

[modrony]

@ jalapeno_dude I don't think you engineered the list for that purpose. I think you happened to have the name and saw a use for it or mafia chose a person to do this based on who had the name. You are right that the whole thing looks less plausible now.

I think the Kappa-target makes Paradox more believable. If he was lying he didn't need to choose him as that entry.
I am kind of confused why he chose to protect him actually.

[Paradox]

Thanks.

@Paradox: did you try to interpret it?
Would have been a really nice coincidence if you had gotten it instead. (Thou it might have led to a lot of confusion later)

When I saw you post that you'd seen someone target BSS on night two I assumed it was me you saw, I didn't reply because I thought I had a better chance of predicting who the mafia would nightkill if they didn't know I was the doctor.

[modrony]

I agree that Paradox would have been more believable if he posted right after Tamien roleclaimed.
I do believe him anyway, but it would be nice to be more sure.

[Shoal]

if he was telling the truth, maybe it’s because Kappa was a townleader. but why that night and not another?

i can see value in tamien protecting you each night: if you stayed alive then eventually you might track someone to the kill. that’s more valuable than chasing after an unknown person. if she was most sure of your alignment and thought you’d painted the biggest target over your head, then i can see it. ‘course i’m more used to the newbie games where at most there was 1 doc and 1 cop and 1 mafia roleblocker (to prevent mass roleclaims), so if a cop outed themselves the doc protects them everyin ght there after and the mafia tries to find out who the doc is to roleblock them.

preview-edit: yeah i can see that too, paradox.