Elcenia Mafia Game Thread

[Tamien]

okay, i give up on not being spoiled on elcenia here, can someone explain ilen and hallai and why michaelblume might be scum now?? i had thought that their connection meant he was confirmed town?

[jalapeno_dude]

I have to go do a thing in 3 minutes and don't trust myself to think enough to make a good vote before then. No doubt there'll be like 12 more pages of discussion (6 of them by Shoal ;)) when I get back.

[jalapeno_dude]

Tamien I'll do that when I get back

[modrony]

@Tamien he is at least confirmed non-mafia.
We can't vote for non-mafia or we will lose. Even if they might be a bad guy.

I am prepared to change the vote if we find indications of demonhood from those not on my innocent-list.

[Tamien]

That's a good point. I shouldn't let myself be distracted by nonmafia scum. Only mafia can make a voting bloc against us. So even if michaelblume is scum now, he counts for the purposes of the innocents list. We need to root out the mafia first.

And I guess it's okay to vote for the demon because that doesn't make us lose, it just prolongs the LYLO?

I should really go read up more on mafia endgame strategy.

[modrony]

But once the first broken precommitment appears, it would be stupid for everyone else not to take that into account.

Actually no, it isn't stupid at all.
If mafia members are breaking rank it means the current candidate is mafia.

[Shoal]

The reason I've been posting more is it's LYLO which means this is the most important game I'm in at the moment and I was kinda overstretched before but two of my other games just ended (one a few days ago, one last night -- perfect town win: we lynched the 4th scum on day 3. we had some great townleaders who made that possible) so I'm less stretched now. I think 3 is my limit and I was in 4 games for most of this. I think I'm only in one game on the other site at the moment. I'm sorry for not being as active in this game as I could have been.

I did misunderstand what modrony was asking earlier. Maybe I should have asked for clarification before going back through the game, but it did help me get all of the events of the game fresh in my mind, and I posted a lot of theory stuff in there to help us out.

So the case against me is process of elimination which isn't that strong of a case. If you want me to squirm I probably won't. I would like to see what the rest of the town thinks and also what my alleged scumbuddies think. If everyone in the town is happy with this lynch, then we might have a problem.

Anyway I have some chores to wrap up before HabitRPG rollover.

[modrony]

Calling the case weak isn't actually an argument against it.
Do feel free to poke holes in it if you can.
That which can be destroyed by the truth should be.

Silence however isn't an argument.
It's an intimidation tactic.

[modrony]

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not voting: 5 (anthusiasm, jalapeno_dude, michaelblume, paradox, shoal)
Shoal: 2 (modrony, tamien)

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[jalapeno_dude]

But once the first broken precommitment appears, it would be stupid for everyone else not to take that into account.

Actually no, it isn't stupid at all.
If mafia members are breaking rank it means the current candidate is mafia.

Right, which means if you're town and not voting for the current candidate you should be. :p This is precisely an example in which precommitment is bad. (Of course it's fine if everyone who precommits votes correctly, but reality is usually not like that...)