Okay I am feeling impatient and want to talk about what just happened so I'm gonna start the next day's spam page without jalapeno, sorry jalapeno!
OKAY SO WHO KILLED WHO, DO WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ONE OF US BEING A DEMON, WHAT
we killed tau. how did wolffreak and PDV get dead? kappa probably killed one of them with vigilante powers. did PDV use demon powers to kill? i thought canonically Revenn never actually got demoned? did kappa killing the demon cause someone else to die? is the demon still alive? it is probably still alive. if the demon jumped to kappa and we kill kappa, does our killer become a demon? how much does that fuck our shit up? can we entice the demon to get too close to tulip? would that be safe for tulip?
I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW
(also, heck, I should have named the thread Day 3 Spam: Tokyo Drift, what a misuse of power)
Day 3 Spam: Spam or Death
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pistachi0n
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Re: Day 3 Spam: Spam or Death
Now that we know there are multiple killing factions, that's probably why there are multiple lives. You should use your power to investigate scummy-seeming players who aren't part of the mafia.
It doesn't make sense to me that demons would kill people right away. Maybe it's more like a poison role? On mafiascum, there's a role "poisoner" who kills someone and they die one night later, the idea being that the poison takes a while to act. Maybe PDV was poisoned?
We should also consider that people might have targeted Tulip and died. Not wolf, she had no powers. PDV? If that's the case, do we need to worry that Tulip is possessed?
Kappa is the vigilante. She was most suspicious of tau, but we killed tau. I actually thought she blocked one of PDV's votes, so I doubt he killed PDV. Could he have killed wolf?
It doesn't make sense to me that demons would kill people right away. Maybe it's more like a poison role? On mafiascum, there's a role "poisoner" who kills someone and they die one night later, the idea being that the poison takes a while to act. Maybe PDV was poisoned?
We should also consider that people might have targeted Tulip and died. Not wolf, she had no powers. PDV? If that's the case, do we need to worry that Tulip is possessed?
Kappa is the vigilante. She was most suspicious of tau, but we killed tau. I actually thought she blocked one of PDV's votes, so I doubt he killed PDV. Could he have killed wolf?
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Re: Day 3 Spam: Spam or Death
ETA: OH DAMMIT I WAS TRYING TO QUOTE MYSELF AND ACCIDENTALLY MY WHOLE POST. NOW I WILL TRY TO GET IT BACK.
ETA: well, my old post seems to have been lost for good. uh, heck.
for posterity, here follows my best approximation of my original post:
Here's what I wrote about demons:
@pistachion, yeah, poison seems plausible
i'm not sure blocking PDV's vote is incompatible with killing PDV. what's your reasoning on that?
kappa could have killed wolffreak, but, like, WHY
ETA: well, my old post seems to have been lost for good. uh, heck.
for posterity, here follows my best approximation of my original post:
Here's what I wrote about demons:
this is actually my best speculation about how a plausible demon mechanic, because i thought it would be a good way to throw people off our trail, because of HUBRISTamien wrote:Lastly, having now read Blood, it occurs to me that maybe the scum are Barashin demons? I'm not sure how it would work - it would be kindof a weird half serial killer, half cult mechanic more than a mafia - but something like... the demon is a killer, but they can also select someone to possess. Whoever they possess then becomes a demon and their wincon changes and the original person playing the demon dies. Now the new demon pretends they are still town and keeps their original abilities, plus getting killing/possession powers. Demons would only die for real if they are lynched. And maybe to keep some continuity of "consciousness", the dead demon players and the live demon player share private comms?
@pistachion, yeah, poison seems plausible
i'm not sure blocking PDV's vote is incompatible with killing PDV. what's your reasoning on that?
kappa could have killed wolffreak, but, like, WHY
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jalapeno_dude
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Re: Day 3 Spam: Spam or Death
(I'm actually kind of relieved I didn't have to start the spam thread because I would be been obliged to name it SPAM HARD WITH A VENGEANCE and I don't actually like the Die Hard movies apart from the first one.)
[in-character]
PEOPLE OF RYGNAAV! Our HOLY MISSION proceeds apace! With THE FAVOR OF MAKAS we have struck down a DRAGON, a foul mocker of our TRUE FAITH! Its OUTWARD STRENGTH was crushed by the DISCORD OF THE INFIDELS, enabling us to PIERCE ITS FOUL DEFENSES!
PEOPLE OF RYGNAAV! We have KNOWN that our GREAT WORK would not go UNHEEDED BY THE DEMONS! They have sent ONE OF THEIR NUMBER to OPPOSE US! But just as their POISONED LANDS are POISON OF THE SOUL, they themselves CORRUPT ALL THEY TOUCH, and their hosts are DESTROYED FROM WITHIN!
PEOPLE OF RYGNAAV! Our GREAT TASK has just begun, but already we have achieved much with THE FAVOR OF MAKAS! Yet FOUR of the INFIDELS AND HERETICS have ALREADY FALLEN, and...wait, what?...FIVE have FALLEN...that can't be right...WAIT, WHAT?
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[in-character]
PEOPLE OF RYGNAAV! Our HOLY MISSION proceeds apace! With THE FAVOR OF MAKAS we have struck down a DRAGON, a foul mocker of our TRUE FAITH! Its OUTWARD STRENGTH was crushed by the DISCORD OF THE INFIDELS, enabling us to PIERCE ITS FOUL DEFENSES!
PEOPLE OF RYGNAAV! We have KNOWN that our GREAT WORK would not go UNHEEDED BY THE DEMONS! They have sent ONE OF THEIR NUMBER to OPPOSE US! But just as their POISONED LANDS are POISON OF THE SOUL, they themselves CORRUPT ALL THEY TOUCH, and their hosts are DESTROYED FROM WITHIN!
PEOPLE OF RYGNAAV! Our GREAT TASK has just begun, but already we have achieved much with THE FAVOR OF MAKAS! Yet FOUR of the INFIDELS AND HERETICS have ALREADY FALLEN, and...wait, what?...FIVE have FALLEN...that can't be right...WAIT, WHAT?
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jalapeno_dude
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Re: Day 3 Spam: Spam or Death
It seems really unlikely to me that Kappa killed wolf. I think we're dealing with either another vigilante (but again, why would they kill wolf?) or, more likely, another non-Town-aligned faction.
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pistachi0n
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Re: Day 3 Spam: Spam or Death
It does not seem likely at all that Kappa killed wolf. It is the main explanation with all the info we have, so, clearly, there is info we don't have. I doubt it was another vigilante, MTC absolved wolf of most suspicion.
How many other scum factions can there BE?!
How many other scum factions can there BE?!
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pistachi0n
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Re: Day 3 Spam: Spam or Death
Maybe the demon is like jumping poison. Every night, it jumps to someone. They die the next night and it possesses someone else. The only way to kill it is to lynch the possessed.
Re: Day 3 Spam: Spam or Death
killing wolf makes MTC 100% confirmed town. so that's one reason.
rampant speculation: there could be a kill redirector who picks someone they think is likely to get attacked and then redirects onto somebody else.
there could be a nexus: someone who whenever they are targeted, a random person is targeted instead. so maybe kappa targeted the nexus with the vigilante and it hit wolf instead.
maybe the demon possesses each person one night and if they stay in for a full day and night then the posssessed person dies and the demon goes into somebody else and the town has to lynch them before the demon moves on. or maybe the kyma have to do kyma to them before the demon moves on. or i dunno just rampant speculation here.
preview-edit: yeah what pistachi0n said.
also if I were naming this thread it would have been SPAM FASTER and then SPAM DEEPER etc
rampant speculation: there could be a kill redirector who picks someone they think is likely to get attacked and then redirects onto somebody else.
there could be a nexus: someone who whenever they are targeted, a random person is targeted instead. so maybe kappa targeted the nexus with the vigilante and it hit wolf instead.
maybe the demon possesses each person one night and if they stay in for a full day and night then the posssessed person dies and the demon goes into somebody else and the town has to lynch them before the demon moves on. or maybe the kyma have to do kyma to them before the demon moves on. or i dunno just rampant speculation here.
preview-edit: yeah what pistachi0n said.
also if I were naming this thread it would have been SPAM FASTER and then SPAM DEEPER etc
Re: Day 3 Spam: Spam or Death
nice push on modrony, jalapeno!
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Re: Day 3 Spam: Spam or Death
Right, this is a good point. Kappa probably did not kill wolf *intentionally*, but it could have been redirected.Shoal wrote:rampant speculation: there could be a kill redirector who picks someone they think is likely to get attacked and then redirects onto somebody else.
there could be a nexus: someone who whenever they are targeted, a random person is targeted instead. so maybe kappa targeted the nexus with the vigilante and it hit wolf instead.