Elcenia Mafia Game Thread

[Paradox]

vote MTC, I might change this tomorrow if I've time to look over things more but I want to get a vote in now in case I don't have time to later.

[Tamien]

I'm gonna vote MTC for now, I think

[Tulip]

Vote MTC, I suppose. The evidence is much weaker than I'd prefer, but it's not realistic to hope for Alphabeta-level evidence every early day, and Alphabeta himself was close enough to cleared by BSS that I'm willing to concede MTC as the current higher threat even with the evidence as flimsy as it is. And Wolffreak, the only alternative with any chance of actually winning the vote, is pinging to me as inexperienced rather than malevolent (although, granted, I'm already on the record as having trouble reading people, so that isn't worth as much as it would be from someone else).

[Alphabeta]

A couple people mentioned that they still think the three kills/cycle prediction was weird. I had no information about that, and still don't, and I still expect Aestrix's 'death' or something similarly weird to continue, and happen about once per night, probably. The Gods wanted 20 people for this, and I doubt it's just to include a ton of characters; there are probably several factions. (Huh, could BSS and Alphabeta both be non-town, but different non-town factions? That is probably too paranoid. I'm sure the scum (or one of the scums, if there are multiple) will kill one of them soon, and then we'll know.) Probably you should disregard all this, since I'm trying to read Divine minds and that's even harder than reading regular minds.

I haven't found any of the arguments particularly convincing, so I'm going to abstain for now.

Hm... I'm not convinced. I suspect either you're some form of scum that was able to decide to not kill last night, or DanielH was a Vigilante. Kill PlainDealingVillain.

[jalapeno_dude]

I don't find any of people's stated reasons for being suspicious of MTC to be convincing, so I am not going to vote to kill him. I listed wolffreak and modrony in my suspicions list. But given that I'm not voting to kill MTC, I can't justify voting against wolffreak either, because I was suspicious of them primarily for stating that MTC was innocent. I'm also fairly convinced by modrony's response to me and no longer find them more suspicious than average.

I am therefore going to vote to kill tau. Several people listed him as suspicious today, for sensible-seeming reasons, and his post responding to kappa and pistachi0n reads as panicked and overly defensive to me. In the absence of more solid evidence against anyone else, this seems like a good enough set of reasons.

[MTC]

So, it seems likely that I’ll be lynched if I don’t defend myself, and the vague nature of most of the reasons people have for voting for me make them difficult to argue against beyond simply role claiming, so that’s what I’m going to do:

My role is Rithka. I have a private communication channel with Mallyn, and I am a dragon (not a shren, Alicorn clarified this specifically), which allows me to survive one attempt to kill me (“losing a form”). My role PM specified that both Mallyn and I are town, and as far as I know nothing has happened to change that. I would try to keep Mallyn’s identity secret for now, except it seems that everyone has noticed the connection between me and wolffreak, and wolffreak is attracting votes too; so yes, wolffreak is Mallyn, and has told me that she has no power except the communication channel with me.

[Tamien]

Well, that seems to explain all that pretty straightforwardly and with way more specificity than is likely if it weren't true. I will change my vote to PlainDealingVillain for now; if wolffreak shows up and contradicts you or something then I will reconsider :P

[tau]

Agreed. This explains a lot and would be a very risky claim to make if it weren't true. So change to vote PlainDealingVillian.

[Shoal]

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oh, ok. well that explains MTC and Wolffreak then.

Vote Plaindealinvillain maybe alpha's on to something.

[modrony]

I remember reading MTCs list and thinking that the dragons don't make sense.

If one dragon has a double life then the rest of them have one too.
Do correct me if I am wrong, but aren't there a lot of dragons in Elcenia?
If all of them have double life, this game will be kinda long.

Also, nobody else listed them.
Also, it's weird Rithka is not a shren when she is one in wiki.

Still, that is easily falsiable by any other dragon dying in a single hit or saying they don't have the power.
I guess I will be content in that if MTC is mafia, they have doomed themselves and wolffreak.
unvote MTC

MTC:
Private communication can be verified. Please do so.
Take two large primes, do: X*Y and post the result in the thread.
privately post the numbers to wolffreak.
Wolffreak should then post those.

This link has random prime generator.
https://primes.utm.edu/nthprime/index.php#random

This will at least solidify you are speaking the truth about the communication.