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pedromvilar wrote:No one uses it, but I think it's a nice way to, like, warn people that naughty times are somewhere in the thread without using the really annoying content warning marker, especially in the future when they don't have the benefit of Ade's amazing daily updates list. And beyond the naughty times, it seems like generally a nice thing to have, I've been thinking of tagging my threads with the canon they're in.

Also there's a difference between 'in the course of this thread the characters have sex' and 'the sex that the characters have during the course of this thread is described' - I don't think anyone objects to the former but I suspect we have a couple people who do specifically want to avoid the latter. (I'm kinda edging toward that conclusion myself in fact.)

^ Yes that exactly.

I'd personally find it really hard to make a judgment call of where a thing falls on the spectrum. The part where I stop being able to write porn is "words for anatomy". I don't really consider anything without at least one or two words for anatomy "porn", and I don't know where else the line would go and don't want to take responsibility for drawing it accurately to others' preferences.

Alicorn wrote:I'd personally find it really hard to make a judgment call of where a thing falls on the spectrum. The part where I stop being able to write porn is "words for anatomy". I don't really consider anything without at least one or two words for anatomy "porn", and I don't know where else the line would go and don't want to take responsibility for drawing it accurately to others' preferences.

I think my response to this is "Tag things however you like, and wait for someone to complain."

How I like is "caveat lector"...

Like, I'm interpreting recent remarks in this thread as complaints? Maybe they are only complaining about other threads and not about e.g. Sadde and Lorica.

Sadde and Lorica didn't bug me but my personal line for that is somewhere other than 'described sex' (it's more like 'the plot stops so sex can happen and doesn't promptly start again', previous lewd threads haven't had this feature); 'described sex' seems like the better line to me because it's (at least theoretically) easier to identify and makes the thread something you probably shouldn't read at work/using a screenreader with unconsenting people in the room/etc.

Yeah, but... I don't know what counts as "sex" (will it be "sex" if eclipsed!Bell swats her Sadde with her cane?) and I don't know what counts as "described". I'm not sure this is actually a solvable problem without a lot of stress on my end if I have to do any categorization.

Adelene wrote:Sadde and Lorica didn't bug me but my personal line for that is somewhere other than 'described sex' (it's more like 'the plot stops so sex can happen and doesn't promptly start again', previous lewd threads haven't had this feature); 'described sex' seems like the better line to me because it's (at least theoretically) easier to identify and makes the thread something you probably shouldn't read at work/using a screenreader with unconsenting people in the room/etc.

As for the "plot stops" I'm not sure that's very well-defined? I mean, sex is about as much part of the plot of a lot of the threads I'm in as random conversation? The vast majority of character interaction isn't really that plotty, so.

"Described sex" seems like it makes more sense. There's a definitive difference between the Lorica+Glam lewdness and the Ashras+Glam lewdness, and it has something to do with just how ambiguous stuff is.

I think a discussion of lewdness and categorization thereof is off topic for this thread.

pedromvilar wrote:

Adelene wrote:Sadde and Lorica didn't bug me but my personal line for that is somewhere other than 'described sex' (it's more like 'the plot stops so sex can happen and doesn't promptly start again', previous lewd threads haven't had this feature); 'described sex' seems like the better line to me because it's (at least theoretically) easier to identify and makes the thread something you probably shouldn't read at work/using a screenreader with unconsenting people in the room/etc.

As for the "plot stops" I'm not sure that's very well-defined? I mean, sex is about as much part of the plot of a lot of the threads I'm in as random conversation? The vast majority of character interaction isn't really that plotty, so.

Yeah, hence me not even considering proposing that as the actual dividing line. (I'm ace, is part of the thing here; general character interaction is usually interesting but, for me, sex just isn't.)

"Described sex" seems like it makes more sense. There's a definitive difference between the Lorica+Glam lewdness and the Ashras+Glam lewdness, and it has something to do with just how ambiguous stuff is.

Yeah. I think a good way of putting it is that by 'described sex' I mean 'described sex acts'? Knowing that the characters are having sex is one thing, knowing how they're having sex is something else again.

"Would you get arrested for doing this in public, on the basis of it being sex rather than on the basis of it being assault or obstructing a public walkway or something" is probably a good rule of thumb for what counts as a sex act.

rockeye_stonetoe wrote:I think a discussion of lewdness and categorization thereof is off topic for this thread.

True, I'll split the thread.