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There's a blog on Tumblr (http://sortinghatchats.tumblr.com/) called Sorting Hat Chats with detailed analyses of different Hogwarts houses. There's been some discussion of sorting Glowfic characters on Tumblr (which I will link to as soon as I am somewhere where Tumblr isn't blocked), but given that Tumblr is not usually a good place for discussion of such things I thought it should be its own forum topic.

I haven't given extensive thought to this myself, but I will say that I read Bells as Hufflepuff primaries, since their morality seems to be more focused on what people should have/deserve than specific moral principles or pursuit of the truth.

Also discussed here http://plain-dealing-villain.tumblr.com ... s-blog-and

I think there was another tumblr post where they classify a few templates, not sure if based on this. I do remember that Libbies are Slytherin/Hufflepuff and Raynes are Hufflepuffs/Slytherins under that (being complimentary parts of the two houses)

I have a half written tumblr post draft (I'd have finished it ages ago but exams) about this:

Bell: Slytherin primary, Ravenclaw secondary

I think Bella is a Slytherin primary on the the extreme end of the spectrum who has decided that “the world is my responsibility”. Of course other primary houses can also want to help the entire world but I think she fits Slytherin best for two reasons. Firstly because Bells are generally possessive which is characteristically Slytherin. Secondly because Bells on discovering other worlds still focus primarily on their world, I think at least in part because it is theirs which is again classically Slytherin. For her secondary house I think, Ravenclaw clearly describes her better than the other houses.


Adarin: Slytherin primary, Ravenclaw secondary, Ravenclaw primary model

Adarin was hard to choose a primary for, I was going to go with Ravenclaw first, I mean this is the guy who came up with a system that puts a number on how much he values each person. Classic Ravenclaw, right? However after further thought I think he’s actually a Slytherin who spends most of his time modelling Ravenclaw.

I think Adarins are for the most part similar to Bells with “the world is my responsibility” thing but in addition to that I think their reaction when someone attacks their Bell makes it clear that they have to be Slytherin.They go from being extremely uneasy about killing to killing everyone who is hurting their Bell without compunction.

The conversation between Revivial and the other Adarin really clearly demonstrates it as well, she’s very reluctant to kill while all the other Adarins are like “you’d totally understand this if you’d ever had to protect Revelation had ever been in serious danger”. I think somebody even suggested she was missing crucial life development from never having the experience. This willingness to cross lines to protect the person that he loves most and to crucially not feel in the slightest bit guilty about it is very characteristic of Slytherin primaries. All of this together fits the Slytherin primary description so well that I can’t see him in any other house.

He’s secondary house is much more straight forward, there he clearly fits Ravenclaw to a tee.


Zev: Slytherin primary, Gryffindor secondary

In contrast to Bella and Adarin, Zev is a Slytherin primary with a very small inner circle consisting I think entirely of themselves and Adarin. Their secondary house is obviously Gryffindor, going charging in is totally their style.


Idania: Ravenclaw primary, Ravenclaw secondary
Chelsea: Hufflepuff secondary
Carlisle: Gryffindor primary, Hufflepuff secondary, Ravenclaw secondary model
Edward: Gryffindor primary,
Kingfisher: Slytherin primary, Slytherin secondary, Ravenclaw secondary model (Giles)
Libby: Slytherin primary, Hufflepuff secondary, Ravenclaw secondary model
Matilda: Ravenclaw secondary (model?)
Rayne: Slytherin primary, Slytherin secondary
Sherlock: Gryffindor primary, Ravenclaw secondary (soulless sherlock maybe Slytherin primary)
Tony: Gryffindor secondary, Ravenclaw secondary mode

I think the Slytherpuff Libby/Hufflerin Rayne thing is separate from this thing.

I haven't given intense consideration yet to sorting any of my templates under this scheme, but it's definitely just the sort of thing I'm interested in, and I'd love to hear in-depth what other people think.

There was discussion of this in the Aestrix Q&A thread too, if interested parties not on their phones want to link.

I'll take a look with my characters in a bit, though obviously I already have sorted a few of them rather naively xD

Idania's Slytherin primary who is way better at hiding it than any of my other characters. Hufflepuff/Ravenclaw model, values knowledge in how it benefits herself, because it makes her more interesting/capable/gives other people a chance to see how smart she is. Also one of the, if not the most, merciless characters I have. I'm not kidding. No, really, I'm not. Cold blooded torture is a thing she does really well.

I also politely disagree with Adarin being Slytherin Primary. I agree with PDV's post on tumblr - he's a Puff primary who desperately thinks he should be Ravenclaw instead.

Adarins really value their Bells not just because they tend to fall in love with them, but because they are personally helpful to the large-scale altruistic goals Adarins tend to have. Yes, they do a thing where they put a number to how much they value each person, but note that it's not just how much they like the person. It's how useful the person is, what they can do, how important what they can do is in comparison to everything else. Katydid's number is not dramatically smaller than Phix's, because she is trying to help the world.

If an Adarin falls in love with someone who is not so driven and armed and happy to help the world, problems occur if they ever have to choose between that person and helping the world. Because choosing between, 'help the world at the cost of a long-term world helping resource' and, 'not, but keeping the resource' is way different than choosing between, 'help the world' or, 'save someone you love.' Adarins are very mathy, they understand this, at least when they are in an emergency situation and have to face the idea of going back to fixing the world on their own when they got accustomed to their partner in crime.

As to why they don't feel guilt over killing people when they're pushed, from the sorting hats tumblr: "But, thankfully for the House’s collective sanity, there are plenty of situations in which a non-douchebag Hufflepuff Primary limits their loyalties and willingness to help. When someone has gone too far, injured the Puff too badly (or, more likely, injured other people too badly), the Puff can kick them out of their “you are a person” circle."

But you're right, Adarins do display a lot of Slytherin characteristics. If they were not so hell-bent on chipping away at themselves to save everyone else then they'd be Slytherin. But Adarins are self-destructive in a way Slytherins can't pull off.

Aestrix wrote:Idania's Slytherin primary who is way better at hiding it than any of my other characters. Hufflepuff/Ravenclaw model, values knowledge in how it benefits herself, because it makes her more interesting/capable/gives other people a chance to see how smart she is. Also one of the, if not the most, merciless characters I have. I'm not kidding. No, really, I'm not. Cold blooded torture is a thing she does really well.

I also politely disagree with Adarin being Slytherin Primary. I agree with PDV's post on tumblr - he's a Puff primary who desperately thinks he should be Ravenclaw instead.

Adarins really value their Bells not just because they tend to fall in love with them, but because they are personally helpful to the large-scale altruistic goals Adarins tend to have. Yes, they do a thing where they put a number to how much they value each person, but note that it's not just how much they like the person. It's how useful the person is, what they can do, how important what they can do is in comparison to everything else. Katydid's number is not dramatically smaller than Phix's, because she is trying to help the world.

If an Adarin falls in love with someone who is not so driven and armed and happy to help the world, problems occur if they ever have to choose between that person and helping the world. Because choosing between, 'help the world at the cost of a long-term world helping resource' and, 'not, but keeping the resource' is way different than choosing between, 'help the world' or, 'save someone you love.' Adarins are very mathy, they understand this, at least when they are in an emergency situation and have to face the idea of going back to fixing the world on their own when they got accustomed to their partner in crime.

As to why they don't feel guilt over killing people when they're pushed, from the sorting hats tumblr: "But, thankfully for the House’s collective sanity, there are plenty of situations in which a non-douchebag Hufflepuff Primary limits their loyalties and willingness to help. When someone has gone too far, injured the Puff too badly (or, more likely, injured other people too badly), the Puff can kick them out of their “you are a person” circle."

But you're right, Adarins do display a lot of Slytherin characteristics. If they were not so hell-bent on chipping away at themselves to save everyone else then they'd be Slytherin. But Adarins are self-destructive in a way Slytherins can't pull off.

(How about Zevis)?

Oooooh, how do you write characters so great. Teach me your ways, Master Aestrix.

Zevi's are pretty accurate, Slytherin/Gryffindor is apt. I wouldn't say their circle consists only of themselves and their Adarin, though, their Adarin's just the guaranteed member of the Zevi club. Note how Olympia immediately thinks of her girlfriend's dead husband and child upon learning of resurrection magic. Interestingly enough, they are a brand of Slytherin that puts their inner circle above themselves, it's just hard to tell because they have such a small inner circle.

Thank you! Uh... Practice? Or maybe it's the way I create my characters. Basically all of my characters have - little aspects of myself. Parts that are small or large parts of my personality that I rip off from the whole and put to paper to see what it would be like if they were the basis of another person. Snark is a mandatory part that has to be added.

(If anyone is curious, I would classify myself as Ravenclaw primary, Slytherin secondary, with a heavy dose of Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw modeling.)

Aestrix wrote:Zevi's are pretty accurate, Slytherin/Gryffindor is apt. I wouldn't say their circle consists only of themselves and their Adarin, though, their Adarin's just the guaranteed member of the Zevi club. Note how Olympia immediately thinks of her girlfriend's dead husband and child upon learning of resurrection magic. Interestingly enough, they are a brand of Slytherin that puts their inner circle above themselves, it's just hard to tell because they have such a small inner circle.

I actually noticed that, albeit, Fossil seems to be sort of "burned out" in that aspect? because of the wonders of New-Kystle Nobility.

Aestrix wrote:Thank you! Uh... Practice? Or maybe it's the way I create my characters. Basically all of my characters have - little aspects of myself. Parts that are small or large parts of my personality that I rip off from the whole and put to paper to see what it would be like if they were the basis of another person. Snark is a mandatory part that has to be added.

To the practice! But really, love your character building specially the bad-good traits balacing :)

Aestrix wrote:(If anyone is curious, I would classify myself as Ravenclaw primary, Slytherin secondary, with a heavy dose of Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw modeling.)

I am having so much trouble with that, but I think I am Ravenclaw primary

So my first pass at quick sortings, which I'm happy to break down if people are curious (and will hopefully hold up when I have more time to stare at them?):

Emmas are Hufflepuff / Hufflepuff
Phils are Gryffindor / Hufflepuff
Jennies are Hufflepuff / Gryffindor
Allis are Slytherin / Gryffindor
Ericas are Slytherin / Ravenclaw
Tamaras are Ravenclaw / Slytherin
Scotts are Gryffindor / Slytherin