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After reading that Adarin and Amariah eventually watch the Harry Potter movie, I was wondering how the Potterverse works in the HSM-based universe and how fiction in general would be changed as well.
Harry Potter in specific:
First of everything, in HSM we have witches and they are public knowledge, how that relates to the wizarding world? Are Cloudpine Witches still common knowledge while the rest of the magical world remains in shadow? Do Cloudpine witches even know about the wizarding world? Can you be a Wizard and a Cloudpine witch? Are flying brooms still a thing?
Dæmons and Animagus? Do the animagus shape and the settled daemon shape are the same? Do people think that you can’t do it until your daemon settles?
Dæmons and Patronus? Again, do they tend to match?

Screw the daemon stuff, are there panserbjørne wizards?

The important questions that occupy the world's minds.

The answer is probably no, though. There aren't centaur, giant, or goblin wizards, so probably not panserbjorne either.

Bluelantern wrote:Are flying brooms still a thing?

I would guess both cloudpine broomsticks and wizard broomsticks would exist as normal for the relevant groups.

Bluelantern wrote: Dæmons and Animagus? Do the animagus shape and the settled daemon shape are the same? Do people think that you can’t do it until your daemon settles? Dæmons and Patronus? Again, do they tend to match?

McGonagall's Patronus matches her Animagus form, so I suspect that if one of patronus/animagus matches your daemon then both would. Settling is probably a non-concern, since except in hilariously implausible and dangerous conditions no one young enough to be unsettled will have a Patronus or an Animagus form anyway.

PlainDealingVillain wrote:The answer is probably no, though. There aren't centaur, giant, or goblin wizards, so probably not panserbjorne either.

Agreed. They might have their own magic though? Separate from wizard or cloudpine magic, I mean; centaurs and goblins both do.

Marri wrote:

Bluelantern wrote: Dæmons and Animagus? Do the animagus shape and the settled daemon shape are the same? Do people think that you can’t do it until your daemon settles? Dæmons and Patronus? Again, do they tend to match?

McGonagall's Patronus matches her Animagus form, so I suspect that if one of patronus/animagus matches your daemon then both would. Settling is probably a non-concern, since except in hilariously implausible and dangerous conditions no one young enough to be unsettled will have a Patronus or an Animagus form anyway.

Even just considering the protagonists of both book series, Harry first casts his first patronous at 13 and Lyra's daemon settled at 13. So it's not really that implausible, not standard but not hugely unusual. I'm not sure If HDM explained exactly what the range is in daemon settling age but if it stretches to even 15 you can add a bunch of Harry Potter characters learning patronouses during DA lessons and James, Sirius and Peter becoming animagi.

Well but Harry was only being taught because of unusual circumstances and wasn't expected to be able to do it at all? And Animagi are supposed to require a lot of work and there are only seven registered in existence? I mean, whatever the unregistered penalty is, it has to be bad; Rita Skeeter gave up writing for a year to avoid it. Plus his dad and co were kinda mad geniuses with a werewolf friend for incentive. It's obviously possible, I just think that the books had us meet extreme edge cases rather than the norm.

On second thought I think you're right on about animagi, it's rare enough to be an animagus already that being one before your settled is probably really unusual. I expect casting a patronus before settling would be more significantly more common, both because we see way more Hogwarts Students do it (like most of the Dumbeldore's Army in OoTP managed it I think?) and because if patronouses did relate to how daemons settled I could see it being fairly common for people to try and learn the spell earlier so they could find out about their daemon. Still it would depend on what age range there is for settling.

You're totally right about the books, Harry manages at thirteen and a number of the Army kids do too, so I was like "this is a very good point, I should go check" and went and looked it up. The wiki / Pottermore say it's stupidly difficult and a lot of people never manage in any form. That said, I'm sure it'd still be a thing that a lot more people would try to find out what their daemon is :)

Link: http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Patro ... rm#Casting

PlainDealingVillain wrote:The important questions that occupy the world's minds.

The answer is probably no, though. There aren't centaur, giant, or goblin wizards, so probably not panserbjorne either.

I think goblins can use wands but are forbidden by the Wizard Government, no idea about other magical species, I would guess that giants and Centaurs can't and I am inclined that Panserbjornes wouldn't. Actually, I think the books might not even mention Panserbjornes at all or only in passing (they are super-rare, right?).

Also notable, what kinds of magical creatures have Daemons? I am guessing that Centaurs, House Elves, Goblins, Merfolks and Veelas, the non-humans probably have "special rules" for Daemons similar to Cloudpine witches (Merfolk with fishes, Veelas with flying creatures, etc.). Some creatues that should be classified as inteligent might not have Daemons purely because they aren't supposed to be worthy of simpathy.

EDIT: It would make some sense if Cloudpine Witches can't use wands (or simply don't need them)

Marri wrote:You're totally right about the books, Harry manages at thirteen and a number of the Army kids do too, so I was like "this is a very good point, I should go check" and went and looked it up. The wiki / Pottermore say it's stupidly difficult and a lot of people never manage in any form. That said, I'm sure it'd still be a thing that a lot more people would try to find out what their daemon is :)

Link: http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Patro ... rm#Casting

Looking at the wiki it seems I have vastly underestimated the difficulty of casting a corporeal patronus (or even the difficulty of casting an incorporeal one for that matter). So a lot less people than I thought would have the potential to do it before their daemon settled.

Actually, now that I'm thinking about the incorporeal/corporeal distinction for patronuses I think an interesting way for it to work would for it to be possible to cast an incorporeal patronus at any age but it only being possible to cast a corporeal one after your daemon settles (with the patronus and daemon matching).