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Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:03 am
by modrony
@Shoal
Agreed that vanilla townies shouldn't be afraid to die for the cause.
But if Tamien is a light, telling mafia she is a light isn't the smart thing to do. I do think she is smart and wouldn’t do that.
Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:05 am
by Shoal
ok, i’ve clicked on the links again and looked at them again. there’s you making a cryptic post at a light and saying you don’t want to discuss it and there’s tamien, who claims to be something like a light, being confused at what you mean and talking about how when she was sherlock she expected to be night killed and now it seems like you’d done something to make you a nightkill target, and then there’s you later explaining what the light message was about and tamien appearing to realise it in hindsight. i don’t know. either she should have figured it out and didn’t or it was too cryptic.
either the mafia understood listposts all along and have been datamining them or they’ve been getting lucky. they probably have been datamining them. tamien knew who she targeted night 2 either way. paradox also claims to have targetted BSS night two and also seems to not have understood the message or alpha would have survived i think.
I’m not defending her i just don’t know which side to believe at this point.
preview-edit: right, but she only announced it today. if we mislynch today then we lose anyway. so i can understand putting all the cards on the table today, though she should have held back until people were being suspicious of her i think.
Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:11 am
by Shoal
I don’t know. maybe i’m being too cautious and i know it’s half my fault that this is happening today instead of yesterday but i think paradox wouldn’t have shown up until today regardless so i don’t know. i do think it’s weird that both jalapeno and tamien were reluctant to vote aestrix that first day.
I’m kinda on the fence here but I do think that paradox is demon-or-mafia and that tamien is town-or-mafia. i could really come down on either side of the fence.
Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:13 am
by modrony
Shoal wrote:
you’re positing that me, jalapeno and tamien are all scum because we didn’t attack tamien. i’m saying we’re not. :P
Jalapeno and tamien attacked you?
You mean tonight? I expect Tamien would have jumped off the wagon at last minute.
I am not saying it is a definite thing.
For example the silence-test weighs more against you in my books.
If you had ended the silence by accusing Tamien I would now find you town. If you had just ended it I would find you neutral.
You might still be town even if I find it unlikely.
I don't think we will be lynching you tonight so relax and vote well if you are a townie.
Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:21 am
by Shoal
i meant the day before yesterday after i posted that big wall because i misunderstood you. all of you seemed pretty happy with my potential lynch at the time. i thought maybe all 5 of you would vote me and then that would have proved my innocence.
The silence was legit real life stuff that i’m not going to get into and it’s null. it would have happened regardless of my alignment.
I know I’m not going to be lynched tonight. I’m not fighting for my life or for anyone else’s. I just want to make the right choice between tamien and paradox.
Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:27 am
by Shoal
in tamien’s favour, paradox didn’t get the light message either.
in paradox’s favour, tamien was weird about voting aestrix on day 1.
Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:28 am
by Shoal
Vote tamien.
I think maybe the aestrix thing counts for more.
Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:30 am
by modrony
Will say that Paradox is unlikely to get my vote today.
The jalapeno-proof kinda doesn't work anymore even if he claims convincingly.
The demon theory is decreasing in likelihood as well, unless the demon needs town alive for some reason?
prev edit: Yeah, life does happen.
It may be a coincidence that you were silent just when I was seeing if you would be silent.
Sometimes test give false results. Doesn't mean we shouldn't do them and trust them when we do them.
Only a person who used a power on BSS on night 2 could have understood it. That was the intent anyway.
Did paradox do that?
Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:31 am
by modrony
last lines was about the message.
Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:32 am
by Shoal
Paradox wrote:Sorry for my lack of participation today, I had a deadline on an essay and an exam and I've just been really busy. I've only had time to skim the thread and if I had more time to think I might go for a more subtle approach but I don't.
Tamien is lying. I am Ahin. I can make a potion that will protect somebody every night and choose to use it or stockpile it. I can use as many stockpiled potions as I want at once. Night one I brewed and stockpiled on for Kappa. Night 2 I made and used one for BSS. Night 3 I made and used on for MTC. Night 4 I made and used on Anthusiasum. Night 5 I used my stockpiled potion for kappa and made one for Modrony. I think Kappa was attacked by multiple people (demon and mafia) or I was roleblocked which made it ineffective. I'm revealing myself now because I'm pretty sure otherwise everyone will unquestionably accepted Tamien and Modrony as town.
I am nearly certain Tamien is mafia because I can see no other explanation for her actions. I am also suspicious of Modrony. It seems likely they are a mafia member trying to force me to reveal myself or have Tamien be accepted as confirmed town. Its also possible Tamien targeted BSS for a kill on day 2 and that's why Modrony saw what they said they did. Although if that's the case I don't know why they're convinced there's a doctor, Tamien could have been targeting BSS with any number of powers.
Vote Tamien
yes. (bolding mine)
