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Okay here's an updated list of people I currently suspect slightly more than others of being mafia: jalapeño-dude, no.head.chicken, and Thatwasademo.
This is based on a combination of instinct, what they seem to be trying to do and reveal, what they claim to be true, and how they are acting. Please investigate people yourselves also because I am not very experienced with the online version of this game and might be misreading them.
Just so you know, you can see everything someone's posted in the game by going to the bottom and sorting by author, ascending. I believe that 63 is Tony, though I originally thought that there couldn't be a Tony in this game if it wasn't Michaelblume, until I actually thought about it.

Great. So, if we can't trust the mods to tell us the truth about this kind of thing, then I'm not sure who we can trust. I am now 100% convinced that Kuu is Tony. The game completely falls apart if we can't trust the mods and additionally I can't think of any templates with a reverse-elspeth power where they can lie believably. whereas tony could have manufactured an alethiometre or something.

Kuu, have you taken any actions that might have lead a reasonable person investigating you with a night action to think you might be a killer? For example, a tracker might see where you went but not what you did there, and if you went to the home of a victim on the night of a murder to investigate, then another investigative role might think it was you? Basically, can you think of any explanation other than "jalapeno_dude is a killer and was trying to frame Kuu" earlier for this misunderstanding? If not, I think it is very likely that jalapeno_dude is the killer. Have your abilities cleared anybody as protown or antitown?

Jalapeno_dude, I think it is time for you to reveal whatever information you thought you had about Kuu. It is morning now so I'm going to vote for you now but I will unvote if you manage to convince me otherwise before bedtime. If other people feel like voting, I think people should be aware of how many is the 3/4ths that we need to kill and not do the final kill before he has a chance to say something.

vote: jalapeno_dude

Unofficial vote count:

jalapeno_dude: pistachi0n, shoal
kuuskytkolme: aestrix, alphabeta, jalapeno_dude

not voting: Anthusiasm, BlueSkySprite, kuuskytkolme, no.head.chicken, Paradox, tau, Thatwasademo

3/4 of 12 seems to be 9. i'm not sure if we need 9 or 10 votes to end the day early.

I am super confused. Why do you think I have information about Kuu? The only reason I voted for them was because I found Aestrix's argument plausible. Obviously I no longer think that's the case. I vote to kill tau, therefore.

Maybe you misinterpreted my last posts? I still believe I have a convincing argument that I shouldn't be killed, which I can prove if I roleclaim and reveal crypto. That argument has nothing to do with kuuskytkolme, though, and never did.

I am also really not sure why jalapeño-dude's vote would be a major factor in voting for 63?

Okay, two people are saying that I misread something. I am going to go and try reading again.

jalapeno_dude wrote:

anthusiasum wrote:Aestrix has a good point wrt kuuskytkolme, but I'm not going to switch my vote because kuuskytkolme has weird time zone issues that prevent her from participating as much. If jalepeno_dude or someone else has a convincing argument as to why they should not be killed, I'll switch my vote.

Just saw this. I believe I do have a convincing argument, but in order to prove it I'd need to roleclaim and reveal my crypto, which I'm very hesitant to do.

I understood this to mean that jalapeno dude had a convincing argument for kuu's guilt. In light of rereading:

jalapeno_dude wrote:Aestrix's argument seems compelling to me, so I won't roleclaim defensively at this time. I know for a fact, though, that I have already been helpful to the Town and can continue to be so in the future.

I'm retracting the accusations I made here against Alphabeta. I am still slightly-to-moderately suspicious of him for being an Addy, but arguments by him, Aestrix, etc. and further consideration have convinced me he was probably not responsible for michaelblume's death.

I guess I will also vote to kill kuuskytkolme, though I am prepared to retract that if I get a chance to check in on this thread closer to the deadline.

it really does seem like jalapeno dude was voting for kuu because they believed Aestrix's argument. I'm not asking you to roleclaim right now.

This explaining why I think the things that I think seems to be working out well for not letting misunderstanding snowball.

Unvote jalapeno_dude.

Jalapeno_dude, why tau? Is it because of the double vote thing?


I'm not going to vote yet. I don't think making a mistake is the same thing as being mafia.

Jalapeno_dude, why tau? Is it because of the double vote thing?

Yeah, they seem the most suspicious to me at the moment. That's not actually all that suspicious, admittedly...

I'm actually less suspicious of tau than a fair number of other players right now for reasons I already explained, although I am seriously annoyed that he drew that attention to me although I might not get murdered in the night since both 63 and jalapeño dude have made themselves into bigger targets and I don't think 63 at least is mafia. Still somewhat suspicious of jalapeño dude, no head chicken, and That was a demo, and somewhat suspicious of Aestrix after subtracting for feelings.

Could you please explain other suspicious things that don't require role claiming?

Ooh, I wonder if Tonies get to do anything cool besides get our suspicions off of them.

Anyway, it's not like BlueSkySprite can do anything to the mafia besides have two votes - she has no investigative powers unless the mods have decided to be Bastards (I believe that's the technical term) and lie to me. So I say we should kill jalepeno_dude instead of tau.

Well, can't argue with the gods.

Unvote kuuskytkolme.

And now I don't know who to vote for. Darn it.

Wait! Could someone please explain why they are voting for jalapeño dude? We're really close to a majority and I don't understand why?
Edited to fix punctuation
Edit 2: could someone also please do an unofficial vote count?