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Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:06 am
by BlueSkySprite
Alex is Shoal unless they are lying or I misremember
I am not a double voter.
If alpha beta has poked me he can confirm this but I don't know if he has
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:07 am
by Shoal
Shoal wrote:Speculation about template powers
Possible vanilla townies: Aral, Ariel, Blake, Cordelia, Darcy, Ekaterin, Graham, Gregor, (Hilary), Ike, Illyan, (Janine), Kingfisher, Thor, Val, Virginia, (Alex), Afton, Inkeri, Ivan, Zeus, Rosalie, Soph, Serah
Possible killers: Ethan, Chainsaw, jokersherlock (vigilante?, serial killer?), libby, steven, demitri, Minnie (until Bell finds her?)
Possible bulletproof and other immunities: Banner, Kolya, Miles, wolverine, Bell (immune to chelsea), Minnie, Chris (for another; problem: “would you consent to be protected by the Chris?”)
Possible communication: Dominique (whisper to another player?), libby, elspeth, Dwi, Chelsea
Possible doctor/shields: (Eights), matilda, wolverine, carlisle
Possible Jester: joker, jokersherlock
Possible information: jokersherlock, (charlie (cop)), lazarus (powers?), liseln (wild magic tells him stuff?), Sherlock, Alice (see night actions of player of choice?), edward (overhear random night action?), Kanim, Pen (silent witness type role)
Possible roleblockers: matilda, nathan (time?)
Possible jack of all trades: tony, joker, addy (copy powers of somebody for 1 night, learns what powers they have in the process), matilda (ialdae is quite versatile)
keziah/griffin didn't make it onto that list for some reason[1], but that came up in the rampant speculation about people section.
[1]i was copying off the wiki and i don't think the wiki has all the templates
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:08 am
by Shoal
Mods, if you made a mistake on the vote counts on that other day, can you let us know whether you counted wrong?
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:22 am
by tau
If you're not the double voter I'm very confused.
Day 1:
http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewto ... =330#p9209 has extra vote for no-lynch. Possibilities are Aestrix, no.head.chicken, BlueSkySprite, Paradox, ozymandias, futurevision, alphabeta, PlainDealingVillain
Day 4:
http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewto ... =600#p9622 has extra vote for shoal. Possibilities are Alphabeta, BlueSkySprite, jalapeno_dude, no.head.chicken, Paradox
Taking the intersection of the two lists, we get Alphabeta, BlueSkySprite, no.head.chicken, Paradox.
Day 2:
http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewto ... =430#p9381 has extra vote for DanielH by only Alphabeta, but this can be explained by Addy. There are 11 people and 11 votes for AndaisQ, which means anyone voting for him is likely not the double voter (unless they can turn it on or off, which maybe they can). no.head.chicken and Paradox both voted for AndiasQ, which means they can't be the double voter (unless other shenanigans). Note that BlueSkySprite didn't vote that day.
Day 3:
http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewto ... =500#p9477 has no extra votes, including the one Alpha voted on DanielH, which means Alphabeta isn't the double voter (which we already know because Addy, but just doing this for completeness). Note that BlueSkySprite didn't vote that day.
Day 5:
http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewto ... =700#p9770 a lot less evidence because shenanigans, but both no.head.chicken and Paradox voted for DanielH and there were 7 voters and 7 votes. This is further weak evidence that they're not double voters. Note that BlueSkySprite didn't vote that day.
So... unless there are serious shenanigans going on that I don't understand, BlueSkySprite is the double voter. Alpha can likely clear things up if I'm wrong.
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:25 am
by tau
Shoal wrote:Mods, if you made a mistake on the vote counts on that other day, can you let us know whether you counted wrong?
Also, to be clear, when I noticed the discrepancies I checked with the gods (privately), to make sure the numbers weren't wrong, and they were confirmed. But additional public confirmation would of course be good.
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:28 am
by Shoal
the wiki page you linked says that sometimes double voter works by a person having a second daytime private vote that they can PM to the mods. othertimes it works the way you're assuming by making someone's vote count twice. If BSS isn't the double voter, then it might be the first thing.
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:32 am
by kuuskytkolme
BBS needs to claim.
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:35 am
by tau
Right ok so that's possible.
My theory is only correct if Alpha borrowed the power on night 1. So Alpha should be able to corroborate or deny my theory. If they can corroborate it... we should probably lynch BlueSkySprite because I have no idea why they would otherwise lie. If they say I'm wrong... then I'm sorry for mistakenly accusing you, BlueSkySprite.
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:36 am
by tau
kuuskytkolme wrote:BBS needs to claim.
Alphabeta can confirm or deny my theory. I don't think BlueSkySprite should claim yet in case my theory is denied and they turn out to be a useful template that the mafia would kill.
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:38 am
by BlueSkySprite
If my votes have twice as much voting, I have not been informed of it.
I guess it could also be a really weird frame if there is a daytime private message voter?
If I had the ability to vote twice as much I would probably have been more diligent about voting every day because that seems like a useful thing to do
If alpha beta has poked me I would very much like for him to confirm