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Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:35 am
by pistachi0n
@BlueSkySprite, Yes, I was informed. I logged in at the beginning of yesterday and found out two things:
1. DanielH was outed as Chelsea
2. DanielH was my new best friend and I couldn't vote for him. I was so angry that I didn't even have a day in my secret new role. I also figured you'd all think I was an idiot for the straws I was grasping at trying to keep DanielH around.

I have no idea who else's vote against Alphabeta got counted, nor do I know if there are any other secret cultists. I couldn't vote for DanielH, I don't see any reason why I couldn't vote for Alphabeta unless it's a "the cultists of the cultists can't vote for the top cultist" but in that case neither Shoal's nor my votes would could.

I'm mildly suspicious of no.head.chicken because they said I was trustworthy two days ago after I gave some faulty reasoning. I'm still getting the hang of this game, I haven't properly played mafia before so the strategies I was using days ago are ones I'd no longer endorse. I'm having fun though and I hope we do it again. I also signed up for an online mafia site, so Shoal, hopefully I'll run into you there! But anyway, I'm wondering if no.head.chicken liked me because they thought I was an idiot townie who couldn't figure much out if I were left alive.

I think Aestrix is town just because she started the bandwagon against AndaisQ and I don't think any of the mafia would have done something so obvious at first. I think they would have passively gone along with bandwagons and had a split vote or two.

I don't think Alphabeta is trustworthy. Honestly? Yesterday I was thinking that he was a mafioso that found out about Chelsea, and if I hadn't been a cultist I would have wanted to get rid of DanielH and then Alphabeta today. Today, I don't know, I think there's probably a 50% chance he's mafia but I do not trust him. He's acknowledged that he's deceived us.

I trust BlueSkySprite but I think that's mostly leftover from feeling bad about how she almost got killed on Day 1. She never said anything suspicious though.

jalapeno_dude I'm also suspicious of because he keeps trying to sniff out investigative roles. I'm suspicious of Thatwasademo because he voted for Alphabeta but I don't think he was a cultist. I'm suspicious about Paradox because they've lurked so much. I"m suspicious of tau and I don't know why. I could probably find a reason if I picked through his posts which I will do at some point.

Kuus has been suspicious of me for a few days which I think was at first because she was a more experienced mafia player than me and I was doing a lot of stupid things, like claiming on the first day (although I wouldn't have don'e that if I had a power role) and alternating between thinking the mafia are the people who didn't vote and that we have a danger of the mafia controlling the vote. So I don't blame her. But alternatively, she might be mafia who doesn't want me around but that's not likely because if the mafia didn't want me around they would have killed me by now. So I'm not suspicious of kuus.

I'm not suspicious of Ozy/person who replaced them that I remember as being tumblr url inquisitivefeminist but I don't remember the URL on here, anyway, I think Ozy knew they wouldn't be playing so roleclaimed the vanilla townie role so we wouldn't worry that we were missing out on some important power when they left.

I'm not voting for Shoal. I believe there are no other cultists and that he's just another cultist with no powers.

Edit: My birthday is August 20

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:40 am
by tau
Oh, for goodness sake --

BlueSkySprite is very likely the double voter. I hadn't thought of the vote stealer but I think double voter is more likely due to the fact that there hasn't been a vote _missing_ from a vote tally, besides last night, where cult is a more likely explanation, especially since there were two votes missing. Alpha's double vote on that day is because he stole the power from BlueSkySprite. If you look at the pattern of votes, whenever there is an extra vote it's from her, and whenever there isn't she didn't vote.

I didn't want to tell anyone this if no one had noticed because I didn't want to let the mafia know that we had a double voter, since the only template I could think of that gave us double votes was a gemini Alli which is town. But now people are actually going to look, so I might as well say.

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:41 am
by tau
Also, Alpha can likely confirm that BlueSkySprite has the double voting power, because (assuming my surmises are correct) Alpha borrowed BSS's power on the first night.

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:51 am
by kuuskytkolme
But isn't the Alex/Lexi/Alli template already dead? I'm on mobile so I can't check.

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:54 am
by tau
tau wrote: Alpha's double vote on that day is because he stole the power from BlueSkySprite.
To be clear, when I said "on that day" I meant "on the day he had a double vote, which is day 2 here: http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewto ... =430#p9381 .

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:54 am
by tau
kuuskytkolme wrote:But isn't the Alex/Lexi/Alli template already dead? I'm on mobile so I can't check.
I thought they said their template was Alex as in Aleko... I don't remember who that was though. Lemme go see.

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:57 am
by Shoal
tau wrote:Oh, for goodness sake --

BlueSkySprite is very likely the double voter. I hadn't thought of the vote stealer but I think double voter is more likely due to the fact that there hasn't been a vote _missing_ from a vote tally, besides last night, where cult is a more likely explanation, especially since there were two votes missing. Alpha's double vote on that day is because he stole the power from BlueSkySprite. If you look at the pattern of votes, whenever there is an extra vote it's from her, and whenever there isn't she didn't vote.

I didn't want to tell anyone this if no one had noticed because I didn't want to let the mafia know that we had a double voter, since the only template I could think of that gave us double votes was a gemini Alli which is town. But now people are actually going to look, so I might as well say.
This sounds a lot more reasonable than my guess that BSS was a Keziah (based solely on her "I think I might be useful later even though I'm not useful now" statement and I racked my brains trying to think up templates or power roles that wouldn't be useful on day 1 but could be useful later on.) Daniel and I were both nervous about recruiting BSS because if she was Keziah then she might be able to degook herself, so we didn't plan to touch her until later.

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:58 am
by tau
DanielH wrote:Confirmed Shoal's private key does what he says.

[*] Key keys/Shoal-role-9619.priv:
Decoded messages/Shoal/role-9001.enc
I am ALEX and I was thinking of myself as a boy Alex but not Aleko but we don't have one of those yet.
Ok so apparently I misremembered. It's Shoal and still alive.

Which means I have no idea why BlueSkySprite is giving us double votes and I'm suddenly a lot less sure they're town. Can anyone else think of a good template that does double votes?

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:59 am
by Shoal
kuuskytkolme wrote:But isn't the Alex/Lexi/Alli template already dead? I'm on mobile so I can't check.
no, that's me, I'm Alex. I just forgot that Lexi was also Alex. so BSS can't be Lexi. But maybe there's another template with that kind of power.

I'll post the list of the templates we thought of and what powers we thought they might have, from the rampant speculation part of the private communication thing.

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:01 am
by Shoal
Speculation about template powers

Possible vanilla townies: Aral, Ariel, Blake, Cordelia, Darcy, Ekaterin, Graham, Gregor, (Hilary), Ike, Illyan, (Janine), Kingfisher, Thor, Val, Virginia, (Alex), Afton, Inkeri, Ivan, Zeus, Rosalie, Soph, Serah

Possible killers: Ethan, Chainsaw, jokersherlock (vigilante?, serial killer?), libby, steven, demitri, Minnie (until Bell finds her?)

Possible bulletproof and other immunities: Banner, Kolya, Miles, wolverine, Bell (immune to chelsea), Minnie, Chris (for another; problem: “would you consent to be protected by the Chris?”)

Possible communication: Dominique (whisper to another player?), libby, elspeth, Dwi, Chelsea

Possible doctor/shields: (Eights), matilda, wolverine, carlisle

Possible Jester: joker, jokersherlock

Possible information: jokersherlock, (charlie (cop)), lazarus (powers?), liseln (wild magic tells him stuff?), Sherlock, Alice (see night actions of player of choice?), edward (overhear random night action?), Kanim, Pen (silent witness type role)

Possible roleblockers: matilda, nathan (time?)

Possible jack of all trades: tony, joker, addy (copy powers of somebody for 1 night, learns what powers they have in the process), matilda (ialdae is quite versatile)