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Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:54 pm
by modrony
I claimed because I was not the most trustworthy-looking person around and I really needed to be.
Nobody else was speaking against the lists and I couldn’t explain my reasons without explaining my difficulty with it.
Having the choice to claim an unspecified power unreliably or a specified power reliably and enforced by the name I chose the one people would possibly believe.
I was wanting to claim anyway because I did feel like a target anyway and really didn't want you guys to be combing my messages for hints that aren't there.
The power is pretty much only useful if I happen to catch the killer on the night they commit a kill. And to help verify your claims if you claimed a power.
I do not wish to point powers out to the killers so I am not leaving hints about that. If I catch someone in the act I will tell you guys immediately.
The one hint I did leave is intended for one specific person only. It's purposefully not solvable by anyone else.

Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:07 pm
by Tamien
@jalapeno_dude: I'm not sure I remember my reasoning well enough to explain it anymore, but basically, I knew I'd die if either myself or my Tony were targeted, so I already had a much higher chance of dying than the average player. On top of that, while I could play cautiously, my Tony didn't even know I existed and had much less motivation to try to avoid attention or suspicion. So I was already pretty paranoid.

Aside from that, I'm not sure how to say what made me *extra* paranoid the day before I died, but at the time I was leaving for a camping trip and checking up on the thread on my phone, and I remember waffling a *lot* about whether I should roleclaim and at least give people the known-trustworthy names I had, or wait until I had found scum first, and being very concerned that I would die before I had a chance to tell anyone what I knew. I just remember having this strong gut feeling that I was not much longer for this world and debating how much to trust that feeling and how to balance it against the annoyance of trying to post from my phone, and eventually deciding I was probably being overly paranoid. And then I died :P I assume that there was just some waterline level of too-much-attention directed at me-and-63 that made me spook; I'm really not sure anymore.

@modrony: Alright, that makes your behavior a bit more understandable to me. I am familiar with the "I felt like a target anyway, so doing something that would normally be risky seemed like a much better option" feeling; I just made a different choice on what to do with it when I was in it myself. I am still interested in who you've investigated and worried that you will take that information to the grave when we might need it. But I will trust you on how helpful vs dangerous it is to share. I hope the person you were intending to hint to is able to understand your hint.

Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:02 pm
by anthusiasm
Hey, so the days are ending on what seems to be a regular schedule now, and the time around which they usually end happens to be during the one time of the day where it's difficult for me to get online. (It's during a class with a stricter teacher, so I can sometimes briefly check the Mafia thread for updates before class starts but that doesn't give me enough time to read and refute arguments). If a bunch of people develop last-minute suspicions about me, can you refrain from killing me until the next day so I have a chance to defend myself? This request doesn't apply if you receive absolute, definitive proof that I am a Mafia member, but that is not likely to happen because I am not a Mafia member.

If you think agreeing to this is too risky, can someone PM me if it looks like I'm about to be killed and it's near the end of the day so I can go to greater lengths to get online?

(I realize that saying this incentivizes the Mafia to bandwagon me right before the day ends if they want me dead. However, the fact that I have pointed this out now makes anyone who tries to bandwagon me during a time they know I won't be online look suspicious).

ETA: I apologize if this request is somehow a breach of Mafia etiquette. I don't think it is (I mean, I don't think "please don't kill me during the time of day that most of us have agreed is a bad time to kill people" is an unreasonable request), but I'm prone to overstepping boundaries and I really don't want to do that here).

Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:38 pm
by BlueSkySprite
I think it's a pretty reasonable request. I requested a similar thing I think at least twice in the last game when it looked like people were going to vote to kill me while I was about to be asleep or at school.

I am not actually sure why everyone agrees we should kill michaelblume/his successor, since him being sick isn't an indicator either way of whether he is evil. Could someone please explain?

Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:42 pm
by BlueSkySprite
Oh, and here is one of these:
Tamien wrote:Image
Unofficial Vote count:
Michaelblume: 7 (Alphabeta, jalapeno_dude, kappa, modrony, pistachi0n, Shoal, Tamien)
Non-Voters: 7 (Anthusiasm, BlueSkySprite, Futurevision, michaelblume, MTC, Paradox, Tulip)

Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:43 pm
by anthusiasm
I think the reason people are doing it is because he doesn't want to play anymore and Alicorn is having a hard time finding a replacement, so killing him solves that problem efficiently. Oh, and thanks for the countdown!

Oh, that reminds me, kill michaelblume. I'll change it if I or someone else thinks of a more plausible candidate.

Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:53 pm
by BlueSkySprite
You're welcome!
I'm not convinced of it actually being a good idea, though? Like if he's a powered townie or a vanilla townie or a dragon townie, we're losing someone who would at least have been a layer of protection against more active townies' deaths. And if there's an inactive killer/other evil faction there is going to be less thought put into evil actions until he gets replaced or killed. So I don't think he'd be a priority either way?

Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:03 pm
by anthusiasm
I agree with you that he's probably not a threat, but I feel like people were suspicious of him before now anyway and we don't have many better options. If you want to provide a better murder candidate I'd be happy to hear out your argument!

Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:13 pm
by Alicorn
I am open to the suggestion that if at the last minute I find a replacement for Mike, votes for Mike should not count against his replacement. But this would require you to carefully manage the contents of second place insofar as you can wrt shenanigans &c &c terms and conditions allow six to eight weeks for delivery known to the state of California to cause cancer.

Re: Elcenia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:07 am
by modrony
I will be at theatre practice for some time today.
I will try to make it in time for day end but I am very unlikely to make the 2 hour mark.
As such my vote locks now.

Just in case I don't see you again until the afterlife I wish you the very best of luck.