Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

[michaelblume]

I'm going to vote with the person who saved my life, Kill DanielH

[michaelblume]

Also now I'm really curious, how does chelsea's power work in-game?

[tau]

Oops. My bad. I got confused by you being Sherlock but that's still not an excuse. My apologies, Tamien.

...and um, what? WHAT! Kill DanielH.

If people are opposing us here, knowing Chelsea, they are likely her minions or something. If it turns out Alpha was lying we should kill him next turn. But I don't know why he would lie about this. And the risk of having a Chelsea around sounds way way too dangerous.

Though Alpha, you said before that you didn't think DanielH was mafia. Why did you think that before? What did you know then, and what's changed?

[tau]

And I second michaelblume's question -- how does the power work? What do we have to be afraid of, here?

[michaelblume]

Yeah, the fact that there exist mind-control powers in this game makes me worried -- can Chelsea make someone's win-condition change mid-game?

[DanielH]

Yesterday you liked me. I admit that isn’t incompatible with me being Chelsea, because I pointed out you care more about people having powers than about what those powers are, but now you’re trying to kill me? Why would you try to kill somebody with an interesting power? For that matter, how would Chelsea’s power in particular cause you to lose? A Chelsea would want to befriend powerful roles, not kill them. That is what the canon Chelsea helped with, after all.

This is to show that Alphabeta trying to kill me for being Chelsea isn’t reasonable. It doesn’t actually argue against me being Chelsea. For that, I direct you to my roleclaim and my powers, as well as the following:

Roleclaim private key

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-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----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-----END RSA PRIVATE KEY-----

and

Powers private key

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-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----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-----END RSA PRIVATE KEY-----

Relevant revelations

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• Key keys/DanielH-role.priv:
  Decoded messages/DanielH/role-9000.enc

  I’m Eights. My “guess” here correct but incomplete. Once a night, I can substitute for anything negative happening to a single person, not just dying.

  Matches messages/DanielH/role-9000.pub
• Key keys/DanielH-template.priv:
  Decoded messages/DanielH/template-9080.enc

  I am Eights.

  Matches messages/DanielH/template-9080.pub

[Alphabeta]

I knew he was Chelsea, I just got greedy in my hope of using his power to coordinate actions without the killers listening in. However, the win condition alteration aspect of the power is, upon consideration, unacceptable (to be used on me). I'm not fond of the plans to thin out everyone's numbers to make the new win condition easier either, which I only found out today.

Dammit, you published your key before I could mention that you lied in your crypto.

[Alphabeta]

Yeah, the fact that there exist mind-control powers in this game makes me worried -- can Chelsea make someone's win-condition change mid-game?

Oh my goodness yes. It changes to "only people who are Chelsea's friend are alive," plus any existing survival-based ones.

Oh, that reminds me, the current cultist may want to come forward for decontamination by Griffin or Elsepth tomorrow night. They aren't particularly interesting, but I'd rather not make anyone lose and have to still play.

[tau]

...holdup a sec. DanielH is saying he has a weird substitution power. Is it possible, Alpha, that DanielH was substituting for someone else and you picked up _their_ power and not his?

If so -- DanielH -- who were you substituting for that night? And more to the point... why were you doing so?

[tau]

Also Alpha -- what does " I'm not fond of the plans to thin out everyone's numbers to make the new win condition easier either, which I only found out today." mean?