Alicornutopia

DanielH wrote:You waited until it was raining to shout. I thought Ice told Cypress that didn't actually happen.

When that happened?

First thread of Incandescence; the previews for the Star Trek reboot included Oscar-bait prompting this discussion.

Alicorn wrote:Bells do not share my doing/allowing distinction very much.

I don't think you, Alicorn, are immoral. Wanted to make that clear.

Now he can truly claim to be the Lord Ruler of Scadrial, ruling a population entirely content and productive and loyal.

And they all lived happily ever after.

Well... damn, I can't tell if this is better or worse than Gift.

Worse. Aelise managed what I suspect is a significantly higher standard of living with less mental intervention.

Also, if the last line is to be believed, it lasts forever (whereas Gift was rescued).

For extra terribleness: Downside is still being the same.

DanielH wrote:Also, if the last line is to be believed, it lasts forever (whereas Gift was rescued).

Actually, can we be sure that *this* Admin couldn't be the same Admin that met the Effulgence Peal? Would Admin mention that world *there* with all the brainwashing?

Not necessarily, but I think Jane would have brought it to the peal’s attention. There are Janepoints in all Downside-connected worlds.

DanielH wrote:Not necessarily, but I think Jane would have brought it to the peal’s attention. There are Janepoints in all Downside-connected worlds.

Ah, right, and even without internet the bells would want at least a general idea of each world.

Anyway: still pretty terrible

I guess that the Lord Ruler also killed a lot of creative potential so technology will also develop very slowly if at all... right?

God, imagine living a (magically enforced) peacefull life and end up on Downside o__o

That place is the worst. Kappa, you are the best at worst place making.

I'd rather live on Gift, by a long shot. Especially since the worst of the Empire's slavery hasn't really come up in either sandbox.

He is in fact actively restricting technology. Canonically this is because guns beat Mistborn under most circumstances and technology makes things harder for him to control. Same for a lot of potential social reforms. Now that he can control everyone directly, he could let things get better. It wouldn't be impossible to convince him, but he doesn't see much reason to. Either it's permanent effects from having been Preservation or the admin is contagious.

It's not strictly forever like the daeva or the admin can do. If nothing else, his universe does still have entropy. But Tab would have beaten Chelsa eventually even without the peal, and nobody in-universe has any chance to fix the Empire. (Note: If anyone wants to drop some out-of-universe interference on any continuity of the Lord Ruler, let me know. I'd probably have to wait a week until I have more time but am all in favor of this.)
Eventually the world will end when, one millennium or another, the Lord Ruler picks up the power at one of the pools and holds on to it too long to set it down. Then it heavily influences his mind and he either destroys the world or puts it in permanent stasis depending on which pool he used.