Alicornutopia

Aestrix's logic makes sense to me.

Mods, would it be going against the spirit of the no private communication rule for people who friends on AIM or gtalk or something to write things like "hey you might want to catch up on the mafia thread" if they think their friend is in danger of being killed because they forgot to check the forum? I think as long as no details were discussed beyond "hey go look at this public thing you could have been looking at anyway" it might be okay? since we're on the honour system anyway about private conversations that can't be monitored?

I'm not asking for my own sake; I haven't felt like opening pidgin in over a year.

I'm currently undecided about who to lynch, if anyone. Non-powered intuition make me feel suspicious of Shoal, though.

Withdrawing my vote for Paradox. Sorry for the flip-flopping. Does a majority of "No Kill" votes trump less votes to kill a person? Because then we could just vote "No Kill" and keep the mafia from controlling it that way.

Yes, but that would itself be an anti-town move. Vote: futurevision, since it's nearing the end of the day so I need to vote somebody who isn't me or a confirmed clear to have any chance of hitting a killer at all, and suggesting a questionable strategic move makes him targetable (sorry).

Huh! I'm surprised to seem myself on a suspicious person list. I didn't think I was being suspicious. I guess I'll have to try harder to make my alignment more obvious?

It is interesting that I don't appear on no.head.chicken's list at all, but perhaps that's simply an artifact of being inactive yesterday.

@Thatwasademo: sorry about that, you are on the list, but I accidentally skipped you when I was writing it out. As it happens you are among the slightly suspicious people.

@Tamien (and anyone who cares about how I wanted that list to work): I think I gave you suspicion points because you asked for everyone to decrypt their roles - it very obviously seemed like a bad idea to me and though I'm well aware that anyone could have simply not thought of all the implications of one or another action (see me and voting), I was hoping that I could collect these kinds of small things and maybe someone would obviously collect more of them.

As it is, either people are managing not to act very suspiciously or (more likely) there's few things that make people suspicious to me. And anyway, that list is of very little use to me because 1. it turns out I'm not consistant enough to make something like that work (my actual feelings about people, vague and fleeting as they are, don't seem to correlate with the list at all) 2. I didn't think to mark down why I thought someone suspicious/not supicious in the beginning, which only leaves me more confused about them...

Basically, the only reason I haven't already scrapped the thing altogether is that I have pretty much nothing else to go on (as mentioned, my opinions about other people are very much vague and fleeting and. which really is no surprise to me at all, I don't trust myself on that - not. Even. A. Little). But even so, I'm reluctant to vote on anyone based on some numbers I tried to add up to suspicion...

The only opinion of mine I kind of trust is of a number of people who I'm almost certain aren't mafia. So far that's: Alphabeta, pistachi0n, BlueSkySprite. I can further trim down the people I'd be willing to vote for to 7 and then I'm lost...

no.head.chicken wrote:The only opinion of mine I kind of trust is of a number of people who I'm almost certain aren't mafia. So far that's: Alphabeta, pistachi0n, BlueSkySprite. I can further trim down the people I'd be willing to vote for to 7 and then I'm lost...

7/14 is actually fairly good odds in Mafia (when it's not mylo yet).

Er, not odds of 7/14, but the odds that 7 suspects with 14 alive imply, which are probably something more like 3/7 or 4/7. And 14 might not be the right number, since I don't have time to actually find the appropriate post to check that. But you get the idea.

I find this discussion on mafia controlling the votes strange, because usually mafia wants to have townies die but not be associated with townies dying, or the ideal situation for them is everyone else but them votes townies who then die. Mafia don't usually vote as a block because then they're easy to smoke out as soon as one of them dies.

no.head.chicken, I'm interested in why you think Pistachi0n especially is not mafia.

@no.head.chicken Oh! I can explain that - I actually did not expect that it was a good idea, but I had just read back through the thread - when the crypto'd roleclaims were proposed, someone said that 'that way once everyone has made a crypto'd claim we can all mass reveal and treat collisions as suspicious'. I was wondering if that was in fact the plan or not and wanted to discuss the merits of that plan vs waiting until someone comes under suspicion before they reveal their roleclaim. I phrased it the way I did to try to invite open-ended discussion in hopes that someone would say something incriminating. I guess that kinda backfired though :P

I am curious about your thoughts on pistachi0n as well - they are in my "undifferentiated middle" section pretty much and I'm curious what has led you to form an opinion on them, or at least what opinion you've managed to form.