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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:01 pm
by DanielH
And, just because, here are the other four:

Yes: c, e, f
No: d

I’m sure you notice how this koan ratio is much greater than for the other strings. It turns out kuuskytkolme’s guesses might have given useful information in addition to entertainment.
Information
Initial post: http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewto ... 366#p28366
SHA-1: 074b5f19b6226a5ef8e524985218f102e41fc5f5

Yes:
(the empty string)
0
1
10
2
4
5
6
7
8
9
a
b
c
e
e4
f
f1
f5
f8
fc

No:
00
000
001
00100
01
010
100
11
111
3
8badf00d
900dd09
abba
b4
c007d00d
c4
cafebabe
d
d15ea5e
d1efa57
d4
deadbeef
decade
decaf
f1d0
f2
f3
f4
f6
f7
f9
fa
faceb00c
fb
fd
fe
ff

Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:13 pm
by Kappa
4c
65
61
72
6e
20
48
78
64
63

Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:24 pm
by DanielH
All no

I didn’t realize when I made this rule quite how few strings were accepted.
Information
Initial post: http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewto ... 366#p28366
SHA-1: 074b5f19b6226a5ef8e524985218f102e41fc5f5

Yes:
(the empty string)
0
1
10
2
4
5
6
7
8
9
a
b
c
e
e4
f
f1
f5
f8
fc

No:
00
000
001
00100
01
010
100
11
111
20
3
48
4c
61
63
64
65
6e
72
78
8badf00d
900dd09
abba
b4
c007d00d
c4
cafebabe
d
d15ea5e
d1efa57
d4
deadbeef
decade
decaf
f1d0
f2
f3
f4
f6
f7
f9
fa
faceb00c
fb
fd
fe
ff

Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:57 pm
by DanielH
Because of how few strings are accepted, I’ll give you a free one:

Yes: 98521
Information
Initial post: http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewto ... 366#p28366
SHA-1: 074b5f19b6226a5ef8e524985218f102e41fc5f5

Yes:
(the empty string)
0
1
10
2
4
5
6
7
8
9
98521
a
b
c
e
e4
f
f1
f5
f8
fc

No:
00
000
001
00100
01
010
100
11
111
20
3
48
4c
61
63
64
65
6e
72
78
8badf00d
900dd09
abba
b4
c007d00d
c4
cafebabe
d
d15ea5e
d1efa57
d4
deadbeef
decade
decaf
f1d0
f2
f3
f4
f6
f7
f9
fa
faceb00c
fb
fd
fe
ff

Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:24 pm
by Unbitwise
Possible properties:

All characters are in descending hex-digit order.
Never contains 3.
Never contains d.

Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:44 pm
by DanielH
Would people like me to continue what Unbitwise did of confirming superset/subset properties like this?

Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:46 pm
by Unbitwise
It makes it easier to make definite incremental progress. Whether that is a good thing for the game depends on how hard the rule is.

If you do:

I suggest that only explicit and valid Guesses should get such answers. I also think that saying subset/superset is best considered as syntactic sugar on "the master provides both a yes and a no counterexample to the guess, if possible".

Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:58 am
by Lambda
02
20
03
30
04
40
05
50
06
60

Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:04 pm
by DanielH
Yes: 02
No: 03, 04, 05, 06, 20 (repeated), 30, 40, 50, 60
Information
Initial post: http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewto ... 366#p28366
SHA-1: 074b5f19b6226a5ef8e524985218f102e41fc5f5

Yes:
(the empty string)
0
02
1
10
2
4
5
6
7
8
9
98521
a
b
c
e
e4
f
f1
f5
f8
fc

No:
00
000
001
00100
01
010
03
04
05
06
100
11
111
20
3
30
40
48
4c
50
60
61
63
64
65
6e
72
78
8badf00d
900dd09
abba
b4
c007d00d
c4
cafebabe
d
d15ea5e
d1efa57
d4
deadbeef
decade
decaf
f1d0
f2
f3
f4
f6
f7
f9
fa
faceb00c
fb
fd
fe
ff

Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:03 pm
by Lambda
0a
a0
0b
b0
0c
c0
22
33
44
55