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Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:07 pm
by Bluelantern
on the "order" one: in theory if the person already knows your name saying that the name is 'Bob' won't be lying to them. It would be saying incorrect information that you are mutually aware to be incorrect and that is intended to trick other people.

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:11 pm
by DanielH
Possibly, or maybe the master fed “Bob” and forgot to ask for his name until later.

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:34 pm
by Alicorn
Does the in-thread answer to the recent questions suffice or is there remaining confusion?

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:15 pm
by DanielH
It answers all the questions I asked, but I'm now wondering a related thing: could a master order their vassal to harm the master? What if it's the first step in somwthing helpful (like cutting somebody open to perfrom surgery)?

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:30 pm
by Alicorn
Not even an order from the master can cause a vassal to harm them, but the definition of harm has a little flex around things like removing an arrow from their flesh or whatever (but not a lot).

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:15 am
by Bluelantern
Alicorn wrote:IFairies cannot interbreed with mortals per se, but some breeding kinds do not strictly speaking breed by having sex, and there could be breeding kinds whose child-arranging rituals could involve help from humans. The kids would still be fairies of the relevant kind though.
So there could be fairies that need the laughter of children https://what-if.xkcd.com/123/ ? xD

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:56 am
by Alicorn
There are no fairies that require the laughter of mortal children, at least, and I'm very disinclined to have any require the laughter of fairy children, because that implies a much sharper curve of population growth than I had intended.

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:41 am
by DanielH
Couldn't it be something that isn't the limiting component? Like, if it required a ritual with one of the necessary steps being the first unforced laugh of an unvassaled present mortal child, that would happen relatively rarely because the limiting component is getting the child there and laughing without being a vassal, not the actual number of laughing children.

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:48 am
by Alicorn
The reason they don't require mortal children is different from the population reason.

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:55 pm
by Nemo
You could have it need the first laugh of a particular kind of fairy, as long as it's some kind other than its own. Then it just means those two kinds have exactly the same population.

(But I kind of hope this isn't the case, just because it subjectively feels out of place to me.)