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Epsilonbeta: Well, not necessarily. Serial killers count as independent in most games of mafia I've played, but I do kind of doubt he's one of those since we already had THE IMMORTAL.

I'd expect "kills every night" to show up as scummier, but yeah after exhausting other options(which may or may not include anthusiasm) I'm fine with voting PDV, sorry PDV.

Eva wrote:I would like to point out that PDV being "less of a threat than Yadal" is entirely based on information we have from PDV.

Eva, I'm basing my assessment off of my vote counting for Yadal.

pistachi0n wrote:

Eva wrote:I would like to point out that PDV being "less of a threat than Yadal" is entirely based on information we have from PDV.

Eva, I'm basing my assessment off of my vote counting for Yadal.

Well, so far we haven't confirmed that your power exists. But yes, if it does, then that's some evidence for Yadal not being scarier than PDV.

That said, we don't really know enough about how your power does 'more scummy'. If it just votes for scum > independent > town then it's given us precisely no information.

I think it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that some independent factions are scummier than others.

As far as people I don't want dead,

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I kid: "Shame on you, rulebreaker! -5 points.", over noise of the same text run through atom.smasher.org/pgp/, truncated.

That said, I do have information to communicate to town only, which poses a bit of a problem. I'll leave it at: I trust BlueSkySprite's results more than pistachi0n's, despite the latter having weak evidence for existing. If there are any doctors in the crowd that have not independently arrived to this conclusion, they should protect her. (after Paradox flips mafia etc., which I'm giving 95% at this point.)

Also, I'm guessing we will have another mafia or two to catch. To which end: HybridZizi, as someone who's posted mostly votecounts and agreement with people, whom beyond Paradox and Eva do you suspect? I'm getting a mild lurk-based scumread from you, but this is probably indeed new player hesitation, which I myself also share.

Edited: HybridKizi -> HybridZizi oops

I agree BSS's power is more useful than mine and deserves priority protection.

But it has given us information.

If I die, I will be shown to be town, and here is the information you guys should keep in mind:
-Shoal is town (unless changing win conditions)
-PDV is not as big a threat as the killers
-If my vote counts for Paradox, BSS is not mafia

(edited once for formatting and twice because I forgot to say why I edited it)

Those are the only ones I have suspicions strong enough to be worth noting. Other people who seem a tiny bit suspicious to me are Tamien and BlueSkySprite, but both of those are pretty much just "I'm getting a suspicious vibe." And it's not even a strong vibe. It's just that I have both of their names written in my notes under "vaguely suspicious." Well, also PDV, but I feel like that goes without saying since he's (probably) confirmed independent. I'm also bouncing between "pistachi0n is CLEARLY scum" and "pistachi0n is OBVIOUSLY town" but I think that's mostly because I know her irl so her posts are automatically more memorable to me and my brain wants an in-game reason. I've pretty much decided to trust her because her powerclaim seems like it was an unnecessarily big risk when it was made. I am excited to see it confirmed tonight, though.

I'm not mafia and I'm pretty much 100% confident I'll read as town if someone wants to investigate me. (pistachi0n? D'you wanna vote for me tomorrow if there's no one else you end up needing to check?) Overall, I'm pretty happy to just assume you all are town. It seems like we kinda keep finding scum by accident. As long as that keeps happening, I don't feel much pressure to be suspicious of people I don't have a good reason to be suspicious of. (...I might not be the best at this game)

Also, just a quick note, my name doesn't have a 'k' in it.

If your vote counts for me, and we kill Paradox, and Paradox is not mafia, which I think is not likely but is a nonzero chance with that claim, it will be a further lack of information.

I'll try to be on in the morning, and if I can at lunch. I don't know if I'll be able to. I don't remember if I voted.
vote Paradox

Could someone please make a time remaining and vote history?