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Re: There should be an Effulgence thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:58 am
by Bluelantern
Marri wrote:
DanielH wrote:
Bluelantern wrote: Well, I don't think Kas/Amariah or Alice/Stella are at a stage where the Joker could cause the Bell's to kill their loved ones and then commit suicide, so there is that.
Wait, WHAT?! Is that somehow the plan for that world!? In what way does thst make ANY SENSE?
I read this as taken from the original Joker canon where he tricks Batman into letting Rachel Dawes die rather than a commentary on Effulgence.
Oh, jesus, lets not bring up non-Bells relationships. Please. I havent recovered fully from the latest new setting.

Re: There should be an Effulgence thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:05 pm
by Lambda
http://imeanforever.dreamwidth.org/724. ... #cmt132308
Are you gonna keep me and take over Fairyland and make everybody call you Princess?
...define "keep".

Re: There should be an Effulgence thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:44 pm
by DanielH
And “make”.

I'm somewhat surprised that Jeff's grandma's gate is not the same as the gate Promise made to send a mortal home.

Re: There should be an Effulgence thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:46 pm
by Alicorn
It's on the wrong continent. Promise made her first gate near her tree, then moved to another continent far away, with Jeff's gate.

Re: There should be an Effulgence thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:46 pm
by DanielH
Yeah, I get that now. I just didn’t for a while; I expected Arcane would meet Rose when he went to close Promise’s old gate.

Re: There should be an Effulgence thread

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:25 am
by linkhyrule5
I kind of feel sorry for Rose.

I mean, she doesn't seem a particularly good choice for Ruler of Fairyland, but ... well, I don't actually know what I'd do if I had the opportunity, but I'm not sure I could justify just freeing Secret if I could theoretically use Fairyland to save both worlds.

Mm. Well, I guess I could tell her my name, order her to hurt nobody except in self defense or in defense of another just on general principles, and then free her and go off and do the Rose thing. I'd probably still end up with a court of fairies I couldn't trust not to try to vassal me, though...

This seems almost threadworthy. How to Conquer Fairyland and Save the Worlds without being an enslaving jackass! :p


... Also, I just realized that Thorn might not actually be the short story protag from the original as I had thought. Durr.

Re: There should be an Effulgence thread

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:01 am
by Bluelantern
linkhyrule5 wrote: This seems almost threadworthy. How to Conquer Fairyland and Save the Worlds without being an enslaving jackass! :p
that sounds like the perfectly thread tittle.

How long Rose stayed on Fairyland?

Re: There should be an Effulgence thread

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:11 am
by Nemo
linkhyrule5 wrote:How to Conquer Fairyland and Save the Worlds without being an enslaving jackass!
Economics.

I mean, Fairyland's best-case scenario for savedness without Joker-fairy magic is still not all that saved, but I bet you can make progress by bartering otherworldly things.
And then eventually an army of sorcerers dethrones the Queen because of course you founded Unseen University, and mortals are a lot better with sharing information than fairies seem to be.

Re: There should be an Effulgence thread

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:42 am
by Bluelantern
Nemo Consequentiae wrote:
linkhyrule5 wrote:How to Conquer Fairyland and Save the Worlds without being an enslaving jackass!
Economics.

I mean, Fairyland's best-case scenario for savedness without Joker-fairy magic is still not all that saved, but I bet you can make progress by bartering otherworldly things.
And then eventually an army of sorcerers dethrones the Queen because <i>of course</i> you founded Unseen University, and mortals are a lot better with sharing information than fairies seem to be.
Now I am wondering what a non-fairy Bell would come up with to solve Fairyland issues.

Re: There should be an Effulgence thread

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:42 am
by Alicorn
Thorn is not Astikari. For one thing, Astikari has blue hair and Thorn is on a green and white color scheme.

Rose was in Fairyland for some small unspecified number of years, like 1-3.