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Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:40 am
by Timepoof
'Adarin'?
Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:45 am
by DanielH
Testing Moriwen’s guess: we know 'aeiou' works.
'aoeui' (Dvorak keyboard left hand home row)
Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:47 am
by Timepoof
'nargles'?
'waffles'?
Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:12 am
by pedromvilar
Throne3d wrote:'cz'
'czz'
'czzz'
'czzzz'
'cc'
'ccc'
'cccc'
'ccccc'
'aaa'
'aab'
'abc'
'qwertyuiop'
'asdfghjkl'
'zxcvbnm'
Yes to the first batch
No, no, yes to the second
No, yes, yes to the third
Timepoof wrote:'fore'?
'bi'?
'frost'?
'ood'?
'ox'?
'yo'?
'you'?
No to all
Moriwen wrote:...Is the rule "if the string contains vowels, they must be in alphabetical order, starting at a, not skipping or repeating any, but possibly stopping before getting through all the vowels"?
Counterexample: 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz' is a yes even though all vowels are repeated once.
Timepoof wrote:'Adarin'?
No
DanielH wrote:Testing Moriwen’s guess: we know 'aeiou' works.
'aoeui' (Dvorak keyboard left hand home row)
No
Timepoof wrote:'nargles'?
'waffles'?
Yes to both
Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:14 am
by Throne3d
'aeioua'
'aeiouae'
'aeiouaei'
'aeiouaeio'
'aeiouaeiou'
'aeiouaeioua'
'aeioaeiou'
Edit: Guess: vowels must be in alphabetical order (edit: starting at a) (or loop round and be in alphabetical, i.e. a, e, i, o, u, a, e, i, …, breaking at any point in the chain, separated by any number of consonants), not skipping any and not repeating in a single 'loop', where they appear?
(I predict the top five are yes, then a yes and a no?)
Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:17 am
by DanielH
Part of my test above was motivated by noticing that so far anagrams all match
'AeIoU'
'AEiou'
'aeIOU'
'ay'
'ya'
'aye'
'Rae'
'Darren'
'Aestrix'
'Aydanci'
'Aydance'
Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:19 am
by pedromvilar
Throne's guess and predictions are correct!
Encrypted rule: Vzhlla liwicfqag ty ahm dmympu uhse nfctp tlmqi.
Encryption key for a Vigenère cipher: allhailthecoin
Decrypted rule: Vowels appearing in the string must cycle aeiou.
Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:21 am
by pedromvilar
Does else want to be Master for a new rule, for that matter? I found this fun.
Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:24 am
by Throne3d
I would prefer not to be Master, so going by "person to guess the rule is next Master" isn't a good idea here :P
Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:26 am
by DanielH
I have a rule in mind but can't run it at the moment; maybe I will ask to take a turn after the next round.
What is the process for going from that rule and that key to the encrypted version? Vigènere cipher?