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Re: Effulgence Status Report

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:02 pm
by Alicorn
Cam is not ready to address the question of his afterlife because he doesn't expect to his satisfaction that the Powers can't or won't squish him for poking. He will get impatient when it is plot-convenient for him to be impatient.

Re: Effulgence Status Report

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:05 pm
by DanielH
That’s what I thought at first, but he seems to at least have some information-gathering abilities that shouldn’t attract the notice of the local Powers (I’m basing my estimates of the Powers’ notice, caring, and ability to do things on the fact that Tilly and Jellybean are fairly casual about helping wizards with their Ordeals; obviously the Powers aren’t omniscient, omnipotent, and nonapathetic about rule breaking). I’d have expected that he’d have at least done some checking, even if he didn’t do anything with that information. For all he knows his afterlife could be worse than Downside was, which would bring up the priority quite a lot (if nothing else, he can drastically time-dilate his world so he’ll feel ready for it in a few seconds outside time).

I’m either overestimating the apathy or underestimating the power of the Powers, Cam’s completely failing a VoI calculation (even though Bells wouldn’t do an explicit calculation, it’s still something they care about), or I’m underestimating the difficulty of actually learning about that afterlife with wishcoins. They aren’t great at information, but they can give various forms of scrying, and higher-level ones should be able to let him scry on his afterlife.

Re: Effulgence Status Report

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:56 pm
by Kappa
The fact that the Powers are complacent about Tilly and Jellybean in particular doesn't necessarily mean that they would be complacent about any particular other thing someone might do that could upset them. Their abilities, strengths, and motivations are largely unknown except by rumour. It's hard to make sensible calculations about what is safe to try when most of what you know is that you are missing a lot of important information and there are powerful people who might take it amiss if you started digging too hard for it. (Almost reminds me of Materia...)

Re: Effulgence Status Report

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:29 pm
by Alicorn
Further, Cam expects (based on the content of his pre-Ordeal rock chat) that just going about business-as-usual motivated-capitalism, he will eventually attract Iggy's negative attention, and he expects to get more leeway from other wizards and Powers if he screws around with things in reaction to an Iggy attack than if he just randomly decides to Mess With Time or whatever.

Re: Effulgence Status Report

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:00 am
by Bluelantern
finished worm last month, can I help with Cape timeline problems?

Re: Effulgence Status Report

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:53 am
by Alicorn
Maybe, but I don't know what the best way to communicate it is - part of the problem is an ugh field that makes even talking about it difficult.

Re: Effulgence Status Report

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:14 pm
by Bluelantern
Alicorn wrote:Maybe, but I don't know what the best way to communicate it is - part of the problem is an ugh field that makes even talking about it difficult.
We could talk around the ugh field? It would be progress of some sort.

I am not exactly invested in Cape (mostly it was the right balance of ability to help + desire to help)

Re: Effulgence Status Report

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:48 pm
by Alicorn
I don't think that would really work, but I appreciate the offer.

Re: Effulgence Status Report

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:37 am
by linkhyrule5
So on a side note (whee, thread necromancy!): Awhile back in the threads there was some discussion about the Matildas heading into Sunshine to try and untwist its ialdic patterns. Is that planned to go anywhere? It seems like a really cool plot idea to me, is all.

(And while I'm at it, have I missed any Matildas? There's Effulgence, Matilda-in-Linnip, and two Matilda-in-Fereldens that I know of. I really like the character, the original book, and Kappa's take on the character, so it's kind of a perfect storm of awesomeness :P)

Re: Effulgence Status Report

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:20 am
by Alicorn
We don't have any concrete plans for that plot.

Those are all the Matildas I can think of off the top of my head for glowfic, but kappa has previously used the character and I might be missing some glowfic ones.