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Ohhhhh I was thinking relative to the Bell. Yeah, in a full complement with an Edward that makes sense.

And, point, I was thinking of Alice. But mated nonmonogamous Jokers exist, anyway!

The Razi and Pera thing was specifically about this:

Mating seems to work if you've met the person pre-turning but not since

and I didn't think that question was related to monogamy either?

Razi and Pera never met before either of them turned.
Assuming I'm remembering correctly, you can mate to someone if you knew them before you turned but haven't seen them since.
Exhibit A: (canonical) Harry Clearwater dearlymisses and probably mates to his wife Sue despite not having seen her since Bella dumped a lemonade bottle of venom onto his broken body.
Exhibit B: (hypothetical) Polyamorous person 1 is in a relationship with polyamourous persons 2&3. 2&3 are likewise with each other. Vampire 1 turns poly 1/vamp 2. Maybe poly 1 was a witch. 2&3 are both potential mates for 1. 1 has met 2&3. If retroactive mate bonding does in fact work, is poly 1/vamp 2 now mated to both poly 2&3?

In the diamond case Bella settles on the purples, I said. Edward is green, like Bells; Adarins, thoroughly mono, are blue. This doesn't put Edward and Libby in the same polycule. Purples are characters kappa writes, and kappa writes extremely poly extremely bisexual characters. The purples can share and all hook up with each other too. Edward is not a party to this fiasco.

Harry and Sue is a peculiar edge case; more usually, you do have to meet the person post-turning. Harry was very upset about The Entire Business and he wanted his life back and she was the most salient part of it; I might describe them as being "spoken for" wrt each other but not as fully mated until he managed to visit. If A, B, and C are a triad, and A goes off and turns, they'd better spot B and C at the very same time after that.

Didyme counted as a resurrection/fork kind-of-thing. She counted; paradigm cases of alts don't (if Didyme died Marcus could not mate to Cadence).

Things, in general, do not enforce monogamy on Jokers (mostly because kappa's brain would pitch a fit, but still, it may be taken as a regularity of any setting in which Jokers appear). The necklace isn't that uptight about it, anyway (we were planning to necklace a Zev to another Zev, and they'd continue to generally behave like Zevs), it just won't hold with multiple-primaries situations.

The imprinting just picks one, probably whichever the wolf sees first, or by minor health/genetic concerns if it's truly simultaneous, or at random if they're identical twins or whatever.

Mileses have monogamous tendencies, but are not irretrievably monogamous, and in particular a Miles would do just fine in an enormous matebonded polycule. Well. Possibly not if his introduction to same was a diamond Bell having a meltdown at all of her new mates. XD

Kappa wrote:Mileses have monogamous tendencies, but are not irretrievably monogamous, and in particular a Miles would do just fine in an enormous matebonded polycule. Well. Possibly not if his introduction to same was a diamond Bell having a meltdown at all of her new mates. XD

Any chance that a Miles could join an cuddle pile?

As I understand it, the necklace has a measure of compatibility which would recognize “already in a magical bond”, right? That way if the necklace comes after one of these other magical effects, it would choose the preexisting object of affection (or most compatible in the case of a multiply-mated diamond vampire), right?

My wording here makes me curious: if I understood correctly in the previous paragraph, how would the necklace react to the #potions love potions? What about other non-permanent love effects like Chelsea?

The necklace is smart enough to recognize compatible forms of magic bonding, yes. #potions are not a compatible form (too poly, too temporary, too unfiltered for compatibility). Diamond vampire mating is usually compatible. Chelsea is incompatible.

Diamond vampire mating is “usually” compatible? What are some of the odd cases where it wouldn’t be? I would expect imprinting to be at most usually compatible (because whatever characteristics it judges by look in only the one direction), but for vampire mating to be entirely compatible.

If two people in Cycle had immortalized each other (like with their Bells and Dans), would the necklace even consider this in choosing compatibility? Would the necklacing (either part) survive the reincarnation?

Poly diamond mating arrangements are incompatible.

The necklace might ignore something relatively subtle like reincarnations in Cycle. Necklacing would not survive except in the form of memories about being necklaced.

I was assuming it would just choose the most compatible option (by its metric) of the diamond polycule. Was that wrong, or am I just using a more lenient definition of “compatible”?