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Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:39 pm
by Thatwasademo
I've always played with a simple announcement of "Mysteriously, nobody died." in the case of a successful doctor.
Which does raise an interesting point: The killers have the option not to kill. So, given that we don't know for certain there is a doctor, they do have a potential gambit of having one of their members claim to be a doctor and claim to protect another of their members. This gambit would be very, very risky though, given that "Doctor" is an incredibly common role even in essentially vanilla mafia games.
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:40 pm
by BlueSkySprite
If Bella was killed that night, everyone would know about it, and a claim that a character was protected would be meaningless.
What might actually fit it better, if the narrators don't tell us when a character is protected, would be for one of them to claim to be protecting a specific character and then they all elect not to kill anybody that night, so it looks like that character was attacked and survived.
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:43 pm
by Shoal
that would work too.
what i meant was they pretend to have tried to protect the wrong person and failed. the doctor, after all, does not know for sure who would be executed that night.
though if i were the doctor, i would protect BSS tonight, because a town that lets her live is a town that believes she has some sort of power.
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:48 pm
by Thatwasademo
Shoal wrote:what i meant was they pretend to have tried to protect the wrong person and failed. the doctor, after all, does not know for sure who would be executed that night.
The standard procedure in this case is to ignore the extra "evidence" and treat it as simply an unsubstantiated claim.
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:51 pm
by DanielH
If you claim to protect somebody and this claim can’t be verified, it’s not particularly useful because we won’t take it as much evidence. If the claim can be verified, it’s more evidence if the claim happened before the verification. The doctor was also just one example; other roles might have other reasons for posting night plans early.
I only found
one other website which does RSA encryption without actually trying to teach you the math behind RSA. Unfortunately, it doesn’t generate keys for you, and it is not quite mutually compatible with the other one (it does Base64 encoding before encryption/decoding after encryption, while the other one does not).
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:14 pm
by BlueSkySprite
How about this website?
PGP Encryption Tool- iGolder combined with these two
Key Generator, Decryption Tool
When I've tested it, it seems to work pretty well, except it has a string of question marks at the end of each message.
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:19 pm
by DanielH
Those seem to work. They aren’t compatible with all the existing encryption, though, and I think it’s probably better to keep using the existing one.
EDIT TO ADD: Here’s how I was doing message storage, before I switched to recording everything. Storing things like this might help everybody keep track of all their keys and which keys go with which files. If you do this, and then you reload the page, copy the private key and encrypted message into the appropriate places, and hit the Encrypt / Decrypt button to test, that should be good enough.
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:52 pm
by BlueSkySprite
Okay, that seems like a good idea I think. However, I am going to use the website I just found, because I have checked and my messages actually work with it when I do them, and it is upsetting to try to use the one where almost everything I try doesn't work.
So
this is the website to use to decrypt these.
I'm going to repeat my encrypted statements because I'm pretty sure these will work! I am posting the passphrase to each but not the private key.
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:16 pm
by DanielH
Ok. I’m going to try to mess around with that site some, and see if I can get something going on the command line to automatically test PGP stuff. If/when you reveal the private keys here, can you also reveal the RSA ones for completeness?
@Mods
If I should die, may I have permission to continue compiling cryptography, confirming/refuting claims about what private keys link to/decrypt to, etc. while providing no commentary of my own? For example, my current plan is to maintain an index like at the top of page 15 for every day, release a .zip file containing all encrypted messages, claimed public keys, and revealed private keys for a day, and to compile all newly-decryptable info as soon as private keys are released. I will upload the sample Day 1 zip soon. Below is a sample format for all the revealed information so far (including the examples where the private keys are in the same messages as the public keys). The numbers in file names are the IDs of the given posts.
EDIT: Changed propose compilation format for better readability and BBCode-formatting
Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:21 pm
by BlueSkySprite
What is it you are trying to test?