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Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:39 am
by Lambda
What does plain-speaking sound like to an Elcenian dragon?

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:42 am
by Alicorn
Asking a fairy what syllables are in a meaningful word which isn't being used as a name is like asking whether something they read a moment ago had good kerning. The information is certainly available, but they'd have to think back or re-check.

Dragons get to hear Draconic.

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:19 am
by DanielH
I have a lot of questions since the Endbringer fight, which can collectively be summarized as “Respawning? Wha?”.
  • Can leaflets spawn in any of their trees if they have multiple big enough, or just the original? What if the original is destroyed but others exist? If there are multiple resawn locations, can the fairy choose which one to use?
  • What happens if all valid respawn locations are destroyed (such as if Yellow had burnt down Promise’s tree before she could take a cutting)?
  • What other kinds of fairies respawn? If a fairy does not respawn, how long would it take unassisted for them to recover from a very thorough crushing?
  • If a sorcerer turns a respawning fairy into a sparrow, can that fairy cure themselves of the curse by being crushed as thoroughly as Promise was?
  • Is this supposed to be canon for everything, or just this one sandbox? Was this discussed earlier and I missed it?

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:30 am
by Nemo
I know some of these.
If the original tree exists, a leaflet will respawn there. If not, at one of the others. (Can't speak to which one, I'd guess the first planted, very likely no choice involved.) If all copies of her tree were gone, she'd appear where her original tree used to be. Non-leaflets get similar, roughly analogous rules. All fairies respawn if sufficiently destroyed. What counts as sufficient probably varies, as does recovery time, but it's less "buried in six coffins" and more "paste."
I have no idea about the sparrow. Probably?

Most of the discussion happened backstage. It did evolve since the Lord Ruler one; in that sandbox ridiculous unattainable amounts of destruction could kill a fairy, with leaflets maybe getting extra lives if they had an extant tree.
The current version might be meant to stick. Not my setting though.

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:37 am
by Alicorn
Yes, a super crushed sparrow will respawn as a fairy-shaped fairy.

It still seems aesthetically appropriate to me that Ruin can kill fairies dead and Leviathan can't.

I don't expect respawning to be a going concern in most sandboxes but I like this version.

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:11 am
by DanielH
How does plain speaking interact with words like “bitch”? Is Promise somehow getting all of the connotations of that word as a cape name (female dogs, insult specifically indicating being unpleasant to be around or doing unpleasant things, the word itself being rude beyond being an insult, etc.) despite it taking less than a second to say?

This is an extension of the issues that come up re: different information density in languages, which I believe you have not worked out very clearly, so I won’t be surprised if you don’t have an answer for this.

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:43 am
by Alicorn
Promise can without fail replicate in plain speech any word that she hears in non-plain speech such that people who might ever normally hear that word from a fairy will hear it at the correct time from her and a translation of standard plain speech accuracy in any other language they hear instead.

That said, she's a little fuzzy on what dogs are and this information is mostly passing through her without stopping. (She gets the other stuff.)

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:39 am
by Bluelantern
Fairies turned into animals lose their kind's magic? Could a sorcerer choose to keep the kind's magic functional?

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:02 pm
by Alicorn
The spell doesn't have a lot of optional features. If you are turned into an animal it does prevent you from doing sorcery and will prevent some but not all kind magic. (Promise would keep hers; Arcane would keep his; Peak and Veracity would lose theirs.)

Re: Questions about Visitor

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:13 pm
by Bluelantern
Alicorn wrote:The spell doesn't have a lot of optional features. If you are turned into an animal it does prevent you from doing sorcery and will prevent some but not all kind magic. (Promise would keep hers; Arcane would keep his; Peak and Veracity would lose theirs.)
What is Peak's kind magic again? I barely remember that nickname.

The threshold is if the kind magic is passive or mental somehow?

What can you tell us about pollenclouds and how humiliating it is to be vassaled by one?