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Re: mapping out characters

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:37 am
by Bluelantern
If Stella was a male Bell, would that make things too different in her and alice story? Would Alice's dad being more violent or homophobic?

Re: mapping out characters

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:47 am
by Alicorn
Earthly Bellparents take queeritude quite in stride (though Charlies can coast in "quiet accepting incomprehension" until they get complete explanations for a while) so nothing would be too different on an Eos-Cam's end. Kappa would know about how it'd differ on Alice's side.

Re: mapping out characters

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:11 am
by Kappa
Alice's dad would definitely be violently homophobic about Alice's friendship with an Eos-Cam, and Judith wouldn't urge them into a relationship so fervently, although she might still express quiet surreptitious approval in the hopes that they might run away together.

Re: mapping out characters

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:15 am
by Bluelantern
At what degree would Alice's dad be more homophobic? Would he openly insult or forbid Eos-Cam presence in the house? Would either Eos-Cam or Alice be more... "careful" to not signal relationship? Actually would Eos-Cam be out in Forks?

Re: mapping out characters

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:23 am
by Alicorn
A Standard Backstory Cam determines what sexuality he is for sure when he's fourteen or fifteen and thereafter, if it is not-straight, tells his parents and informs people if it comes up in conversation but doesn't make a point of being Out To People. He probably would have told Jessica shortly after starting school in Forks as part of an attempt to distract her from something annoying she was talking about and then never have had to tell anybody else.

Re: mapping out characters

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:26 am
by Kappa
Would he openly insult Cam: Almost certainly. Forbid his presence in the house: Maybe, maybe not, but Alice would definitely get in shit for associating with him. Alice would try not to directly antagonize his father in Cam-related ways because he would predict that Cam might be upset about the results.

Re: mapping out characters

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:28 am
by Alicorn
Incidentally, nonstraight female Earth Bells (there's at least one forthcoming) do basically the same thing except that she might hesitate to tell Jessica since it might be taken as hitting on her.

Re: mapping out characters

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 10:22 am
by Bluelantern
Alicorn wrote:A Standard Backstory Cam determines what sexuality he is for sure when he's fourteen or fifteen and thereafter, if it is not-straight, tells his parents and informs people if it comes up in conversation but doesn't make a point of being Out To People. He probably would have told Jessica shortly after starting school in Forks as part of an attempt to distract her from something annoying she was talking about and then never have had to tell anybody else.
I find that extremely funny despite not being so. I suppose (given Standard Backstory Bell/Cam) that Forks folks wouldn't know about before hand that a Bell is not-straight because there isn't a way for that information enter in the town's gossip enviroment (If it did, people would probably refer to her as that as much as being Charlie's daughter)

Would Eric and Mike even exist in a context where they aren't sexually compatible (from their end) with the native Bell? They whole narrative purpose is pretty much being rejected by the Bells.

hmm.... I think that if was male Bell.... Eric and Mike would be "replaced" by Jessica and Lauren in terms of being rejected romantically. I wouldn't be surprised if Angela behavior would be exactly the same. This assumes the classmates remain the same. Similarly, Eric and Mike might try the "Bell is new, let be friends with they so we can get some of they glory" that Jessica did.
Kappa wrote:Would he openly insult Cam: Almost certainly. Forbid his presence in the house: Maybe, maybe not, but Alice would definitely get in shit for associating with him. Alice would try not to directly antagonize his father in Cam-related ways because he would predict that Cam might be upset about the results.
Would Alice's dad (does that template have a name?) care that Cam is the Chief of Police's son? I don't think it would completely change his behavior, but would he be more respectful? Also, would he assume that Cam is not-straight?

Re: mapping out characters

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 10:33 am
by Kappa
I tend to call the template of A-Cluster Joker dads "A-Dads".

Everything I've said about the A-Dad's behaviour takes into account that the Cam would be the chief of police's son. It would moderate the A-Dad's behaviour slightly, yes. And he'd probably assume the Cam was nonstraight even if he didn't know for sure, just on the assumption that why else would anyone associate with Alice?

Re: mapping out characters

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 10:41 am
by Alicorn
The existences, sexualities, and personalities of Erics, Mikes, Angelas, Jessicas, and Laurens do not depend on their universe's Bell's gender. I don't think Lauren would hit on a Cam, but Jessica might. Angela might nurse a crush but probably wouldn't do anything about it and would handle it gracefully when he wound up with his designated purple. Mike and Eric would likely try to be friends.