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Re: Cooperative Zendo: a moral victory

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:33 am
by Throne3d
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Re: Cooperative Zendo: a moral victory

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:35 am
by Moriwen
Throne: no, no, no, yes, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Koans
Yes:
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No:
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Re: Cooperative Zendo: a moral victory

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:36 am
by DanielH
That was not quite what I was expecting.

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Thoughts: A necessary condition appears to be that all digits are at the end. A sufficient condition appears to be the absence of digits. The letters do matter in some way. Throne seems to have a hypothesis for how

Re: Cooperative Zendo: a moral victory

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:39 am
by DanielH
Proposed rule change: you cannot propose more koans (even with none of yours outstanding) unless somebody else has made proposals or gotten answered since you last proposed some. Or some other turn compromise.

Re: Cooperative Zendo: a moral victory

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:40 am
by Moriwen
DanielH: yes, yes, yes, yes, yes; yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Koans
Yes:
raven
0
1
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4
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8
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a0
a1
00
aa
bb
abc
def
qwerty
raven0
araven
a
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10
cba
aaa
bbb
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100
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f
g
h
qwerty0
aenrv
vrnea
nevar
wtsrnkiiged0
writing0
11
111
raven00
12
132
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z00
q0
t0
n0
q2
q3
t2
t3
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n2
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testingareallylongwordheretoseeifyouarebanningcertainletterclusterstoo
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
testing
really
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three
fourteen
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three0
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No:
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Re: Cooperative Zendo: a moral victory

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:41 am
by Throne3d
I actually don't have a hypothesis for how. I am honestly at a loss here.

Re: Cooperative Zendo: a moral victory

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:57 am
by Throne3d
Might as well guess anyway, so um.

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Re: Cooperative Zendo: a moral victory

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:00 pm
by Moriwen
Throne, all yesses.
Koans
Yes:
raven
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1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
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a1
00
aa
bb
abc
def
qwerty
raven0
araven
a
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c
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10
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aaa
bbb
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100
e
f
g
h
qwerty0
aenrv
vrnea
nevar
wtsrnkiiged0
writing0
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111
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12
132
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z00
q0
t0
n0
q2
q3
t2
t3
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n2
n3
testingareallylongwordheretoseeifyouarebanningcertainletterclusterstoo
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
testing
really
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three
fourteen
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three0
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No:
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Re: Cooperative Zendo: a moral victory

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:09 pm
by DanielH
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Re: Cooperative Zendo: a moral victory

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:10 pm
by Moriwen
DanielH, all yesses.

Koans
Yes:
raven
0
1
2
3
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5
6
7
8
9
a0
a1
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aa
bb
abc
def
qwerty
raven0
araven
a
b
c
d
10
cba
aaa
bbb
000
100
e
f
g
h
qwerty0
aenrv
vrnea
nevar
wtsrnkiiged0
writing0
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111
raven00
12
132
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z00
q0
t0
n0
q2
q3
t2
t3
n1
n2
n3
testingareallylongwordheretoseeifyouarebanningcertainletterclusterstoo
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
testing
really
zero
three
fourteen
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three0
fourteen0
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No:
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