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Re: Eclipse Worldbuilding Info
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:31 pm
by Ezra
Moriwen's explanation is pleasing to my intuitions.
Re: Eclipse Worldbuilding Info
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:32 pm
by Alicorn
It's harder than changing your name but mostly quantitatively plus rude questions from bureaucrats ("so this entire time you were a sub and now you're a dom? did something happen to you? you know not all doms are like that...")
Some jurisdictions allow "switch" on paperwork, others make you pick one. If you refuse to classify you can't get a driver's license or passport and some places won't let you get married, which is kind of inconvenient, but you'll still have things like your birth certificate that don't specify.
Re: Eclipse Worldbuilding Info
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:51 pm
by Nemo
Ezra wrote:Moriwen's explanation is pleasing to my intuitions.
My conservative Protestant intuitions were screaming "NO, that Catholic position has the causation backwards and doesn't make sense because of [various Biblical citations]", so I agree. Excellent division.
Re: Eclipse Worldbuilding Info
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:57 pm
by RoboticLIN
So, without deciding, it's some sort of half-citizenship that results. Neat.
Are schools willing to adapt? I mean, in the range people likely havent decided, do they expect everyone to be 'normal' schoolchildren? Or is there some nice floormats for the sub children to sit on incase?
Do they ignore dom/sub actions at all? Are they going to help kids figure out which they lean towards?
Are there sorts of 'dom' classes or 'sub' classes? I giggle in thoughts of 'Ropework 201' and 'History of the Ballgag' but thats what i'm asking about. I think Sex Ed is a little underwhelming at this point.
Re: Eclipse Worldbuilding Info
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:05 pm
by Alicorn
Up through middle school it's undifferentiated. In high school there might be different uniforms if the school has uniforms, but nobody sits on the floor; you might have dodgeball "doms against subs" but nobody's going to be so crude as to serve the subs lunch last or anything. Kids figure out how to act according to their roles the same way they learn any social skill - practice and nudging from others when they're out of line in some way.
There is not formal institutional help with role-determination but sex ed is definitely more thorough in this universe, on account of general increased sex-is-a-thing acknowledgment and the increased need for safety lectures. Sex ed does divide into two classes; the undecided or switches are generally permitted to take both; they will not actually teach you knots or the history of the ballgag but they'll go over the difference between play and abuse, making sure circulation is not cut off, The Following Popular Activities Are Actually Quite Dangerous And If They Interest You Find A Class Somewhere Not Here And Know What You're Doing, available forms of nonmonogamy and how not to be a total dick about it, protection, etc. Like, it's still school system sex ed but it's better than ours and fits the setting.
Re: Eclipse Worldbuilding Info
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:10 pm
by RoboticLIN
Fair enough. I forgot that middle school exists, Canadian here. Thanks for the answers and such.
Re: Eclipse Worldbuilding Info
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:20 pm
by Eva
I started thinking about this universe and Evas, and things got a bit out of hand.
You see, Evas are stubbornly, annoyingly switchy. They are the switchiest switches that ever switched. And in this setting that is Uncommonly Interesting.
Things an Eva in this universe would do:
- Wear their long hair up in a bun
- Wear very nice ties because ties are collars but not collars
- not really care about speaking/not speaking imperatives
- not really care about meeting/not meeting people's eyes
- generally be as deliberately switchy as possible, where by "switchy" I mean the dynamic version of "androgynous"
- probably lean dominant overall on expression to balance out being obviously female-therefore-sub
Re: Eclipse Worldbuilding Info
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:51 pm
by rockeye_stonetoe
Steel would be dom. Gren would be sub-ish. Nick yelled at me for asking.
Re: Eclipse Worldbuilding Info
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:56 pm
by Alicorn
BTW, I'm happy to be-this-setting for other boxen.
Re: Eclipse Worldbuilding Info
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:56 pm
by Kappa
I think a while back I was talking about BDSM AUs with Alicorn and came to conclusion that there are no purples who neatly fit into exactly dom or exactly sub (and not that many who are happy with "switch", either), but I don't remember the details.