Re: Reference in Methods of Rationality.
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:16 am
Ooh the melting ice could also be Loki! Because she is sort of a frost giant?
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So, as was painfully obvious, bellflowers are bells. Bellflowers in real life come in colors that include indigo. Most Bells do not have serious color schemes, but one who does is Juliet, and her color is indigo; so when he was trying to make the flowers colors that were not real bellflower colors I suggested making them indigo.bellflowers; the indigo petals seemed luminous in the white light of the walls, and curved inward in a way that gave the impression of a desire for privacy
It's a Stella-wishcoin.a glowing red hexagon
Eliezer did not consult me on this, but it's the Joker color scheme; I don't know why it's a leaf. I think Eliezer likes Sherlocks more than Jokers and allocated attention accordingly so this is the only nod to a Joker.a leaf colored in vivid shades of white, green, and purple.
This is Twivamps (and thus, Golden) but I didn't produce the specific "white glittering stone" reference (it was there and not marked for comment when I looked at the potion draft).a bellflower and a white glittering stone
Angela. This reference made it in as I suggested it.a gray-flecked white feather and a bellflower
Shell Bell. Eliezer did this part by himself (he has read Shell Bell's sections) and I am happy with it as-is.dribbling crushed seashell into the cauldron, while his right hand dropped in another bellflower
Aegis. I intended to suggest the copper as an ingredient, but this isn't far off.His hand tapped a bellflower with a strip of copper before dropping it in
The rose is Rose. Originally I had her in a different point of the potion, but Eliezer wanted Quirrell to crush something, and Butterfly and Shell Bell were taken and Sarion not readily potionable, so I moved the rose, since at least roses are the sort of thing you can crush. Room for improvement.crushing a rose as though to squeeze the juice out of it, still using his bare fist.
Clarity. I suppose it could be clearer (ha ha) if it were green, since it's already been established that HPMOR unicorns come in colors.a strand of what looked like unicorn hair
The "bright hair" thing is strictly etymological; I told Eliezer that Sherlocks are by and large brunettes. So this is nothing in particular.a pinch of golden hair
Eliezer had specific tonal desiderata for this ingredient, but I did my best to make it refer to Chelseas, who tend to be blonde.a loose thread of gold wrapped around a pinch of foul-looking substance
The desideratum for this one was that it involve a change of appearance. I made several suggestions; this is modified from one (I thought the potion itself should change color) but is derived from Twivamp turning change-of-appearance.dropped a pale beige-pink twig into the cauldron, and its color changed to white just as it touched the surface.
This was not marked for comment. I don't know what it is unless he's equivocating on how many Bells he wanted to count as part of the potion and it's one of the fork-and-merges.dropped two bellflowers at once into the potion, and they seemed to merge as they touched the bubbling liquid
Stormy. Not precisely what I suggested but just fine.dipped a bellflower into a jar of liquid labeled with the Potions symbol for rainwater.
Was not marked for comment in the original copy I got; I gave him some Sherlock references to put wherever he wanted and as far as I can tell he didn't use any. He mentioned that he "presumably" meant to refer to a vampire but obviously none of the vampire Sherlocks have white hair.Another lock of bright hair, seeming white but not with age, was gently dribbled into the cauldron
Not marked for comment, I have as much idea as you do.another bellflower into the potion, accompanied by a plant-shape like a tiny cross
Generic.dropped a bellflower and a scrap of parchment into the cauldron.
Chi; made it in as I suggested.blew on the potion as though to cool it, though the fire still burned under the cauldron; then added a pinch of dirt and a drop of water and a bellflower
This was supposed to be the White Witch, actually, because it was supposed to signify the decline of something evil, but as people have pointed out ice could be lots of things.a chip of ice, slowly melting as it touched the surface froth
He ignored a significant amount of my suggestion here; he wanted something symbolizing someone mostly good turning evil. I proposed Stevens, who may morally deteriorate if not rescued; the rubber band is a reference to Nathaniel's rubber band ball hobby (even though he in particular has not undergone this deterioration) and it was supposed to then turn transparent (c.f. Voice's unwillingness to be seen). Needs improvement.what looked like a white-grey rubber band and held it over the cauldron; as the rubber was held within the steam, it turned black.
Mars; Opportunity.A pinch of red-brown dust
Butterfly.mallet made an unusually loud thud as it crushed white butterfly wings, mixing them with another bellflower
Katie. Could stand to be clearer.struck a bellflower and then a different pale flower with two more thuds.
Kiri. Possibly too subtle.turned up the fire
This was marked for comment, but Eliezer didn't take either of my suggestions, so this is currently a non-reference. The handling of the ingredient should indicate casual slaughter of something.casually chopped a small worm into bits
He wanted a metaphor for dawning understanding and required the peeling motion for some reason, so I said any alethiometer symbol would work and suggested candle wax. Could stand to be clearer.delicately peeled bits and small strips from a chunk of candle-wax
"Hi! We're grass! Hi! Hi! Hi! We're grass! Hi!"sifting grass clippings into the cauldron, bit by bit
Silver Streak. The only "lock of bright hair" that makes sense.a tuft of horsehair
Rapunzel. I don't know why he's crumbling it.gently crumbled one of the last bellflowers together with a strand of long blonde hair and then dropped it into the potion
Nika.He picked up a jar of what looked like dragon scales.
He wanted a "dawning realization" thing with the drip by drip part; mint oil refers to Phaeton!Bell's lie detection spell, which called for it as an ingredient.dropper of mint oil
I could not begin to tell you.a burst of glowing bubbles