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Re: Elcenia Spoilers from the Chalk thread

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:48 pm
by DanielH
I assume the part about dragons sharing magic, in turn delaying old age, is part of the standard Elcenia canon? Has nobody noticed that counselmembers on average live longer than other dragons, or has this information just not filtered to an Elcenia viewpoint character’s conscious attention while we were watching?

Edit: this thread’s title seems a little out-of-date.

Re: Elcenia Spoilers from the Chalk thread

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:40 pm
by Alicorn
It is canon and undiscovered (as relates to lifespan) in canon.

The council's life span increase is basically invisible; they don't spend that much time loitering around in natural form on the island and they're a small sample size. By far the more significant results of this fact are a) violet-groups, white-groups, and red-groups live longer (in that order) and blue-groups die youngest, b) dragons with living clutchmates live longer, c) competitive fliers live longer, and d) dragons who marry other dragons younger than usual live longer. This only when the dragons in question die of old age! And the variance is so high that even if you plotted all this out on a maximally informative graph it wouldn't be really obvious that it wasn't noise, not without knowing the mechanism.

Re: Elcenia Spoilers from the Chalk thread

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:15 am
by Shoal
"I just - have you given any thought to whether Finnah might have, like. Thoughts. That are specific to having been the one who got you." what does this mean?

Re: Elcenia Spoilers from the Chalk thread

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:33 am
by DanielH
I believe this is a reference to Mial only being a shren because somebody left Finnah’s egg in a public park. Finnah might feel guilty about shrenning Mial, or might have complicated feelings about his plan to stay a shren.

Re: Elcenia Spoilers from the Chalk thread

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:15 am
by Shoal
oh! i was interpreting "got you" too literally, i think. it makes more sense if it doesn't mean "received you"

Re: Elcenia Spoilers from the Chalk thread

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:52 pm
by DanielH
Yeah, my mind started there too. I backtracked around the time I realized that Finnah moved into Mial’s house, so it’s more like he got her, and then wondering why that would be relevant.

Re: Elcenia Spoilers from the Chalk thread

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:52 pm
by Bluelantern
How the wolfriders are created? they aren't descedents from dragons?

Vampires are dragon-related too? Why they have extra magic?

Interbreeding with magical animals could cause the dragon offspring to develop unusual magical traits like (possible) vampires and wolfriders?

Re: Elcenia Spoilers from the Chalk thread

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:46 pm
by Alicorn
Wolfriders are descended from dragons. So are vampires. Magical animals are not implicated in their additional traits; those happened separately.

Re: Elcenia Spoilers from the Chalk thread

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:01 pm
by Bluelantern
Alicorn wrote:Wolfriders are descended from dragons. So are vampires. Magical animals are not implicated in their additional traits; those happened separately.
At random or there is a specific cause? like being the offspring of a unusual or something?

Re: Elcenia Spoilers from the Chalk thread

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:33 pm
by Alicorn
Both the wolves and riders have green-group ancestry (unusualness is not relevant) which did help slightly in allowing them to develop their mindlinks with each other. Vampires have a strong reason to hang around dragons a lot, so early generations of them did, and have enough continued admixture therewith to have picked up the shapeshifting trait in a limited, altered form.