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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:46 pm
by kuuskytkolme
That w yes was interesting. I have no clue where this might be going, but let's test that w some.

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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:12 pm
by DanielH
It makes sense to me that w would be yes; it just lends evidence to the idea that w≍aaa

Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:13 pm
by DanielH
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AAAAAAAAAAA why did it take us so long to discover case can be important?!

Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:19 am
by Lambda
...wait, h̶o̶w̶'̶d̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶f̶i̶g̶u̶r̶e̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ why do you think that case matters? I don't think I see any examples so far...

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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:21 am
by pedromvilar
w is both yes and no in your list

Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:59 am
by DanielH
I figured out case matters as follows:

You didn’t respond to my post here, but I misread your statement “w is yes; the others are no” as including it. Then you confirmed it just now.

Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:54 pm
by Lambda
pedromvilar wrote:w is both yes and no in your list
...yikes. w should be yes and not no.
DanielH wrote:I figured out case matters as follows:

You didn’t respond to my post here, but I misread your statement “w is yes; the others are no” as including it. Then you confirmed it just now.
Whoops, sorry.

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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:28 pm
by Lambda
(Please don't take "out of band" information like that as authoritative; it's not in the spirit of the game. Also I make no guarantee as to its accuracy.)

Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:56 pm
by DanielH
I’ll try not to but if it is true I hope to see some evidence of that soon.

I have one idea I’ll check on tomorrow; in the meantime let’s see if c happens to be a convenient integer multiple of a:

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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:46 am
by Lambda
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