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[DanielH]

I assume there are Materians who dislike their sexual orientations for their own reasons with our without a reference to any religion; do subtle artists sometimes voluntarily change people's orientations? It seems like one of those would be better to call in for unstraightening Mandos’s victims than somebody who did in- or semi-voluntary straightening.

If Kib reincarnated outside the standard list into somebody attracted to only women, would he consider getting the orientation he declared most sensible? What if he reincarnated in the standard cycle; would his boyfriends consider it? I think Maitimo in dreams do come true considered going to a Vala so presumably he would more strongly consider going to a subtle artist who had heard of bi- and pan-sexuality.

[Alicorn]

Customs around changing people's sexual orientations in Materia vary. Boots does not happen to already be acquainted with anyone who does voluntary orientation changing.

The Stork incarnation mechanic allows gender changes but not actually object-of-attraction changes. Dreams do come true is the extent of our thoughts on the matter of "what if Lu in Shine context".

[pedromvilar]

What's different between this new Hogwarts thing and canon/other Hogwarts boxen? Anything besides the War/Harry Potter never having happened and the Platform being built only last year?

[MTC]

There also seems to be an implication that Slytherin doesn’t have the bad reputation it has in canon (this is based on the Curufin unreservedly stating that his brother is the “Slytheriniest Slytherin who ever Slytherined” and on Miranda apparently being okay with being put in Slytherin), that would require a lot more than just the war never happening.

[pedromvilar]

It wouldn't - the bad rep of late is due to Voldie, according to WoG.

[lintamande]

Hogwarts!box is set in the early 1800s.

[DanielH]

Is Curufin like that in canon? In particular by “that” I mean his explicitly discriminating against Muggles and the talking about whether Miranda’s family is important. Though I’m inclined to read the second as bad word choice that Miranda deliberately misinterpreted (unless she actually did mean her family is politically important).

I guess with the discrimination against Muggles he didn’t explicitly say they weren’t equal, just that working with technology did not imply they were.

[jalapeno_dude]

Not quite sure what you mean by "in canon" here. I guess the equivalent issue in the Silmarillion is the Noldor attitude towards the Sindar. Don't know the attitude of the Feanorians in particular, but in general it seems to be a pretty unabashed belief in Noldor supremacy--at least cultural supremacy, but it wouldn't be that surprising to me if this turned into racial supremacy. (To a certain extent, the belief in cultural supremacy is factually supported, given the Noldor's technology advantage and the fact that most of Sindar society was destroyed in Melkor's initial assault on Beleriand--but in the early 1800s Potterverse you could probably make the same argument about Muggles w/r/t Wizards...) Certainly the Noldor seem to establish themselves as the ruling class almost everywhere in Beleriand, and this continues up through the Third Age e.g. with Galadriel ruling over Lorien.

[DanielH]

I meant in the Silmarillion, but I was more thinking of attitude towards nonelves than towards other Elf races.

[lintamande]

The relationship with the not-Doriath Sindar is probably a closer analogy than the relationship with other races, given the levels of intermingling, but re: other races, Curufin canonically gets on splendidly with the Dwarves (he's one of the few people they trust to learn their language, he has powerful magic items as gifts from Dwarves he collaborated with on magic engineering) and the Fëanorians get on well with most of the non-Doriath Sindar; their policy towards Men is basically to give them a place to live and then ignore them entirely.

I think all of the Fëanorians believe in the cultural supremacy of the Noldor but once adults mostly have the sense to bite their tongues about this.