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Re: Effulgence Fandom Ideas

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:39 am
by Shoal
I would be interested in an Aes Sedai Bell (wheel of time) but if you haven't read the source cannon, i cannot recommend slogging through however many doorstopper tomes the series comprises. there are entirely novels in which nothing happens, the plot is not furthered, no characterisation occurs, and everybody is in the exact same predicament at the end of the novel that they were at the start of the novel.

but I want Aes Sedai Bell.

Re: Effulgence Fandom Ideas

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:45 am
by Kappa
What is an Aes Sedai? I keep hearing things about that series that vaguely intrigue me, but not enough for me to actually pick up the first brick and start reading.

Re: Effulgence Fandom Ideas

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:59 am
by Alicorn
I haven't played any Simses since the very first version and mostly used it as elaborate architecture and landscaping software...

I've heard of the Aes Sedai too and haven't read the source. Maybe we could lift just the Aes Sedai and put them somewhere else.

Re: Effulgence Fandom Ideas

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:39 am
by Kappa
Yeeeeeeees. Tell us things about the Aes Sedai, Shoal! Because right now the extent of my knowledge about them is: "they're... magic??? And there's a small number of them? Maybe?"

Re: Effulgence Fandom Ideas

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:52 pm
by PlainDealingVillain
While the written Let's Play is probably good, I really recommend playing through one or more Myst games. There are excellent walkthroughs, both ones which give you all the answers immediately and ones which have a series of clues shown one by one, and I don't feel the games actually lose much when walked through. The puzzles aren't really the focus; they mainly serve to make you look intently at anything you can find and therefore find all the scattered background information in books and pictures. (If you're only going to play one, play Riven. It's generally considered the best of the series.)

Re: Effulgence Fandom Ideas

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:02 pm
by Bluelantern
Alicorn wrote:I haven't played any Simses since the very first version and mostly used it as elaborate architecture and landscaping software...
"Simses", huh?

Well, there is a spectrum of what you can do with the suggestion
In one hand, you could take some of the games fantastic elements and run a “sensible” setting with it. It is a world where you have vampires, fairies and plant-people, and you have means to become said races or even go back to human. There is means/knowledge to make stuff that increase your lifespan and other forms of magic.
On the other hand, which requires more research you can go crazy on the aspects of the games. The Sims 2 and 3 both had this mechanic to accumulate points that can be traded by items or powers, you needed to fulfill wishes/wants for that. So you could have Sim!bella running around trying to meet a werewolf so she can gain +300 points that she needs to buy Fast Leaner lifetime reward, because she wants to learn how to cook Ambrosia not only for herself but her parents.

Re: Effulgence Fandom Ideas

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:33 pm
by Kappa
I read the Myst LP and now I'm watching one of Riven. XDDD It's fun!

Aes Sedai

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:56 pm
by Shoal
All about Aes Sedai

Okay, I have read the entire series and I will summarise it as best I can, skipping the boring parts about cis white boy finds out he's the most important person in the world and the entire fabric of the universe revolves around him. literally. (his name is Rand and I will call him that in this post)

i'm not looking up the spellings on any of this so you might want to check on wikipedia or something if you actually do incoporate this.

In the Age of Legends, there were male aes sedai who worked with saidin (their magic source) and female aes sedai who worked with saidar (female equivalent). there was peace in the world and they used their magic for entertainment, building great buildings, making ter'angreal (magic devices that have some function. for example there was one that was basically an ereader. or there could be a terangreal that did teleportation. or whatever you want basically. but they were really hard to make). and sa'angreal -- items that make the person stronger with the magic than they otherwise would be.

Magic is woven in complicated patterns to make spells. Spells can do pretty much anything you like: teleport, make fire or light or lightning or shatter boulders or healing somebody (called delving because you delve into their body with the magic to find what is wrong and then to heal them). in the age of legends, they achieved a level of technology comparable to modern earth but it was all done through magic and there was no fighting and no bad stuff. they had sword fighting but it was just a sport and nobody got hurt.

aes sedai could join together in a circle to lend their strength together and make more powerful weaves than they could do alone, with one person leading the circle, and even men and women could join together and the leader of the circle could wield saidin and saidar together and weave something and that would make even more powerful magic than men alone or women alone.

There was also Telarhanrhiod (i know i spelled that wrong), the world of dreams, where certain aes sedai who were dreamers -- different aes sedai have different areas of strength and additionally some can only channel enough saidar to light a candle while others can do much bigger things, but those who were dreamers, even if they did not have much channelling capacity, could be powerful in the world of dreams. you can enter it in the flesh, though it is very dangerous to do so because then what happens in the world of dreams is happening to your real body which is bad. but you can enter it just by going to sleep in bed and doing lucid dreaming, and you can affect the world around you by thought -- just like in lucid dreaming. the world of dreams is a reflection of the real world, and it can affect the real world in some ways too.

and then they discovered another power, which turned out to be the One Power, and they drilled a magical bore to tap into it but it turned out to be the Dark One's prison that they'd bored into and that let him taint the world again and bring back suffering and evil, so they tried to create a patch over the hole but the dark one lashed out and tainted saidin so that anyone who wielded it would go mad. but some aes sedai sided with the dark one and became his minions and they are called the forsaken by normal people and the chosen by the bad guys. they are very powerful and wicked. they were imprisoned along with the dark one when they patched the hole.

the male aes sedai all went mad and when they went mad they killed a lot of people because they were still powerful and the world descended into chaos and it was bad and civilisation collapsed and only legends remained of the age of legends, which is why it is called that, and we get to the present day when the bonds on dark one's prison are weakening and the chosen/forsaken become free to act in the world again.

for a long time now, any men who can channel are "gentled" by female aes sedai before they can go mad and hurt people and they lose the ability to use saidin but it is a very harrowing process. so there are only female aes sedai in the present age.

and then Rand is born and turns out to be the taveren -- that means that the pattern swirls around him and he takes a focal point in the pattern of the universe and for a time at least all who come near him are swept up in the pattern and blahblah most important person in the world. but it's lampshaded in the text kind of because random chance stops being random around him -- coins always land heads or two girls try to pass each other in the street but they both go to the left and then they both go to the right and they do this 37 times getting more and more embarrassed as they try to give way to each other.

anyway, bella would probably be taveren.

when a girl finds out that she can channel, she is sent to the white tower to study and at first she is a novice and then becomes ... i forget the word but she levels up over time and eventually becomes a full aes sedai when she passes some tests. the tests are interesting. and harrowing.

the aes sedai women are divided up into ajahs (groups, i guess) with each one having a colour: there are the reds who go about gentling men who can channel, the greens who are warriors, the yellows who are into healing, the whites who are scholary, the blues who i don't remember, the browns who i also don't remember, and secretly there are also the black ajah who serve the dark lord.

the white tower is governed by an Aes Sedai who no longer has an ajah because she is supposed to represent all ajahs. (in practice, she usually still has feelings towards her previous ajah). she is elected to this position for life, and the form of address for her is "Mother". I imagine this would be Bella's goal.

the world in which the story takes place has achieved vague-medieval-europe level of technology and they have horse drawn carriages. no printing press yet, no trains. generic medieval fantasy setting.

there are 7 ages and by the time you go full circle there are no legends whatsoever of the previous nth age. it is said that our world is one of these 7 ages.

so dark one unleashes trollocs (orcs) and fades (my mental picture of them look like darth vader but they are probably like those shadowy things that control orcs from lord of the rings) Rand fights them and is better than everybody else blahblahblah.

there are a lot of cultures in wheel of time and most of them are more interesting than the one the main characters are from. there are the wolves, who are sentient, and they enter the world of dreams (which they call the wolf dream) and they fight shadowspawn too, and there are the Aiel who follow ji'ehtoh (a complicated system of honour) and they live in a wasteland where there is little water so they bathe in sweat tents and their maidens are maidens of the spear and they are fierce warriors.

there's this other culture where women who can channel are called damane and they are leashed with a terangreal collar by other women who can channel, called sul'dam, and the damane cannot weild saidar except at the command of their sul'dam and the sul'dam punish them. they are governed by the empress, may she live forever.

anyway, 15 books later the entire world fights the last battle and Rand defeats the dark one and everyone else wins their battles against the dark one's allies and there is peace on earth again. and the 15th book kind of makes the point that it wasn't really about Rand at all, it was about everybody else fighting their battles and yes Rand was important, but so was Egwene (a girl from his village who became head of the aes sedai) and so were all the soldiers on the battlefields and so were all the other thousands of named characters we got to know over the course of the million billion words that we have read.

ask me questions and i will answer them!

Re: Effulgence Fandom Ideas

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:09 pm
by Shoal
the head of the aes sedai is the Amyrilin seat.

there was also the grey ajah. forgot about them.

http://wot.wikia.com/wiki/Aes_Sedai

http://wot.wikia.com/wiki/Ajahs -- this is good because it talks a lot about the different ajahs

red is for gentling male channelers. green is the battle ajah. grey ajah is for diplomacy and politics. brown is for gathering and perserving knowledge. yellow is healing. blue is righteousness and justice. white is logic and philosophy. and black ajah serve the dark one.

http://wot.wikia.com/wiki/White_Tower -- the white tower is where the amyrilin seat lives and where the novices and accepted are trained and where most aes sedai live when they are not journeying around.

http://wot.wikia.com/wiki/Amyrlin_Seat -- the head of the aes sedai

Re: Effulgence Fandom Ideas

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:16 pm
by Alicorn
Wow, that's a lot of made-up words in that setting there. I remember hearing something about Aes Sedai never lying? Am I thinking of something else?

I'd like to ask that we not refer to anybody (of any level of fictionality) by their demographic characteristics in a dismissive way. Not naming the protagonist and just calling him a "boy" is fine since "boy" is a noun and he wasn't very important to what you were trying to describe, but since he is not very important, he did not need the extra adjectives and I'm not sure why you added them.