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Re: Cooperative Zendo
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:12 pm
by kuuskytkolme
Do the thes loop?
thethethethethethe
thethethethethethethe
thethethethethethethethe
thethethethethethethethethe
thethethethethethethethethethe
Should be no yes no yes, right?
Re: Cooperative Zendo
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:13 pm
by DanielH
Love seemed to be a counterexamples to my idea of things appearing to alternate yes and no with repetition, but I don’t think it really is. My original idea was contradictory; lovelovelovelove would have needed to be both a yes and a no (depending whether you start with love or lovelove). It might alternate only if you start with something accepted; then any even repetition would be a no and any odd would be a yes. Therefore I expect that any repetition of 4n loves will be a no, and any repetition of 4n+2 will be a yes.
Re: Cooperative Zendo
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:19 pm
by Lambda
thethethethethethe (6): no
thethethethethethethe (7): yes
thethethethethethethethe (8): yes
thethethethethethethethethe (9): yes
thethethethethethethethethethe (10): no
Re: Cooperative Zendo
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:48 pm
by DanielH
*Stares at (8): yes*
Well that takes away the primary hypothesis and most of the variants I can think of.
Re: Cooperative Zendo
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:57 pm
by Lambda
:3
Re: Cooperative Zendo
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:15 pm
by kuuskytkolme
let's try
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Re: Cooperative Zendo
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:34 pm
by DanielH
Wait, we don’t know what causes things to be accepted in the first place yet. Maybe the^8 is unrelated to the^1.
the^16
the^24
the^40
the^56
the^11
the^12
the^13
the^14
big^8
lovelove^8
Re: Cooperative Zendo
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:47 pm
by Kappa
I love how we're exponentiating words now. (But wait, do you mean to exponentiate them or just multiply?)
Re: Cooperative Zendo
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:53 pm
by Throne3d
I assume it's meant algebraically, where if you exponentiate them you string them together (aa = a², aaa=a³), but if you multiply you just stick a number at the start (a × 2 = 2a).
Re: Cooperative Zendo
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:15 pm
by DanielH
I did mean it algebraically, but not all algebra is commutative so perhaps a2 ≠ 2a. Just because it seems like this rule is anagram-invariant doesn’t mean it really is.
Technically exponentiation usually binds more tightly than multiplication but I think the meaning is clear. I suppose I could have surrounded the words with parentheses, though.
However, we are supposed to be dealing with strings, which have different notational conventions.