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Oh, in that case the question is how difficult is it to get people to actually use, which is much harder.
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XDDanielH wrote:Consternation descriptions,
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Oops, autocorrupt, fixed
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I ask just because it seems like throne and I are the only ones posting there even though several new threads appear weekly
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As one of the main proponents of moiety color, I’m asking this:
Please use words (color-coded words are best) that don’t require having the moiety list memorized to understand. Color coding is great IFF it isn’t the only way information is available.
For example, today, two of the three threads have a lotus-and-pomegranite flag and a word that’s the same lotus color. If I don’t think of Moriwen from that, saying “lotuses” doesn’t help. If instead you had said “Moriwen pups”, “Moriwen characters”, “Jean et al”, or something else along those lines, it would have been just as helpful to those who know this mapping and those who don’t.
I realize in this case you just copied the descriptions, but often you don’t, and most of this applies to people writing those descriptions too.
Please use words (color-coded words are best) that don’t require having the moiety list memorized to understand. Color coding is great IFF it isn’t the only way information is available.
For example, today, two of the three threads have a lotus-and-pomegranite flag and a word that’s the same lotus color. If I don’t think of Moriwen from that, saying “lotuses” doesn’t help. If instead you had said “Moriwen pups”, “Moriwen characters”, “Jean et al”, or something else along those lines, it would have been just as helpful to those who know this mapping and those who don’t.
I realize in this case you just copied the descriptions, but often you don’t, and most of this applies to people writing those descriptions too.
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… Basically, I expect this to bug me far too much. I can't think of a phrasing I'd be happy sticking to ('Moriwen pups' or 'characters' or what), and various usernames are inconsistent or non-standard (Faceless, Rockeye, lintamande), and if I did the "Jean et al" suggestion I would not know who to place as the 'main' character, and so would need people to explicitly state this for me. (I am not willing to read each and every thread to guess, nor am I willing to have to choose and potentially 'get it wrong', nor am I really willing to increase the workload required for me to do the report, especially since it's a daily thing.)
I'm not willing to put any more time in to work out who's in what thread, what template they are, whether they're distinct enough I should use their instance name (Korovai) or their template name (Gregor) or some extra indicator (Saddest Gregor), what color I should mark them, how I should phrase the thread descriptions where not given, what the name of the setting is, what color I should make it if anything, etc. It takes me far too much time as is and people relatively consistently make it hard for me to work this out. It's annoying enough to have to comb for new threads each day and add them with appropriate markers. Some people do not use any thread descriptions at all, introduce a new setting without tagging it, and also don't mention the thread anywhere for me to get the information on it, and really it makes me want to refuse to add them to the list.
So if I start doing this, I'm going to need people to indicate their preferences somehow so I feel confident that I'm not going to bug people by making a change requested by just a couple of people, and I'm going to have to request that people give me the full, color-coded or user/color-indicated (e.g. "Jean (Moriwen) and Evelyn (Throne)") thread description, and I'll add your thread with that, or I'll only add your thread to the report when/if someone else voluntarily does that for me.
I'm not willing to put any more time in to work out who's in what thread, what template they are, whether they're distinct enough I should use their instance name (Korovai) or their template name (Gregor) or some extra indicator (Saddest Gregor), what color I should mark them, how I should phrase the thread descriptions where not given, what the name of the setting is, what color I should make it if anything, etc. It takes me far too much time as is and people relatively consistently make it hard for me to work this out. It's annoying enough to have to comb for new threads each day and add them with appropriate markers. Some people do not use any thread descriptions at all, introduce a new setting without tagging it, and also don't mention the thread anywhere for me to get the information on it, and really it makes me want to refuse to add them to the list.
So if I start doing this, I'm going to need people to indicate their preferences somehow so I feel confident that I'm not going to bug people by making a change requested by just a couple of people, and I'm going to have to request that people give me the full, color-coded or user/color-indicated (e.g. "Jean (Moriwen) and Evelyn (Throne)") thread description, and I'll add your thread with that, or I'll only add your thread to the report when/if someone else voluntarily does that for me.
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Or we could move on from the forum report, I'm also wondering if anyone still uses that.
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I still use the “new threads” section.
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I could add a "started today" indicator to the Constellation report if that's the only thing stopping people. (Or do people not use reports at all?)
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I don't personally use reports a ton but it would probably be useful to have that indicator. (Also if we could see how many replies a thread got on previous days, if we wanted – some people won't want the clutter but some people won't want the information to just disappear the next day.)