mapping out characters

[DanielH]

Even after being made to love her for as long as that had been going on? I'm imagining the Gift magic would last through turning.

[Kappa]

Sure, but Aelise knows perfectly well that she only likes Chelsa because Chelsa is using magic to make her. She finds this aesthetically annoying, even more so without a soul.

[jalapeno_dude]

...Libbypires sound like they have an awful lot in common with Downside's Admin, no?

[Kappa]

I mean, I used the phrase "aesthetically annoying", but I'm not sure what other parallels you're seeing...

[jalapeno_dude]

I mean, I used the phrase "aesthetically annoying", but I'm not sure what other parallels you're seeing...

Yeah, it was mostly that. :p

[Bluelantern]

How about Kingfishers and Ethans if they are changed into sunnypires?

edit: Better Question, turn Kingfishers and Ethans into a Pantheon deities! xD

[DanielH]

I was going to this thread to ask a similar question, but about a different world. If a Kingfisher were to be in a Twilight world, is there any way the attached Ethan would not be a wolf? Would this require that the Kingfisher in question be female (temporarily or regularly), or would the Ethan manage to imprint on the Kingfisher anyway (maybe by being a witch that allowed him to have kids with a guy, or magically being a fertile female wolf, or something)?

[Alicorn]

My understanding is that if you put a Kingfisher & Rayne set in Aurum they will wind up in one of the kinds of indelible love, Rayne first. If the Kingfisher is a girl, then the Rayne could be a wolf; the Rayne could also be a vampire.

[Kappa]

Yeah. Basically, if a Kingfisher and a Rayne are in a universe where magical indelible love is a thing, the Rayne will almost certainly* end up in magical indelible love with the Kingfisher. Reciprocation is optional and exact details are not necessarily specified.

*It's just barely conceivable that there are circumstances I haven't thought of under which this might not happen. But you can pretty much assume the rule is airtight until proven otherwise.

[DanielH]

It just seemed, given that reciprocation is optional and the description of Ethan “orbiting” Robin, that an imprint bond was more appropriate than a mate bond. I haven’t actually seen BtVS yet so don’t know source canon, but a lot of the ways the relationships are described in Effulgence seem closer to imprinting; I guess it might be a relatively small sample. In particular, when reading the Animorphs section, it looked exactly like Ethan had imprinted on Robin despite not being a wolf.

I suppose vampire Ethan, half-vampire Kingfisher would also not surprise the part of my brain recognizing these relationships, but that part of my brain still insists an imprint relationship is more appropriate.