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Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:46 am
by BlueSkySprite
Possibilities tree. warning, long, weird format, edited
If there is one killer: (names are chosen in alphabetical order)

If anthusiasm is the killer possibilities:
-1. The town kills anthusiasm. Town victory.
-2.The town kills BlueSkySprite.
A. Anthusiasm kills pistachi0n at night
I. Shoal and Thatwasademo kill anthusiasm. 50-50 Town or Cult victory.
II. Shoal and anthusiasm kill Thatwasademo. Anthusiasm kills Shoal at night. Killer victory.
B. Anthuisasm kills Shoal at night
I. pistachi0n and Thatwasademo kill anthusiasm. 50-50 Town or Cult victory.
II. pistachi0n and anthusiasm kill Thatwasademo. Anthusiasm kills pistachi0n at night. Killer victory.
C. Anthusiasm kills Thatwasademo at night.
I. Shoal and pistachi0n kill Anthusiasm. Cult victory.
-3. The town kills pistachi0n
A. Anthusiasm kills BlueSkySprite at night.
I. Shoal and Thatwasademo kill anthusiasm. 50-50 Town or Cult victory.
II. Shoal and anthusiasm kill Thatwasademo. Anthusiasm kills Shoal at night. Killer victory.
B. Anthusiasm kills Shoal at night.
I. Anthusiasm and Thatwasademo vote for each other. 50-50 Town or Killer victory.
C. Anthusiasm kills Thatwasademo at night.
I. Anthusiasm and Shoal kill BlueSkySprite. Anthusiasm kills Shoal at night. Killer victory.
II. BlueSkySprite and Shoal kill anthusiasm. Town victory.
III. Anthusiasm and Shoal try to kill BlueSkySprite, BlueSkySprite votes to kill anthusiasm.
a. 50% - BlueSkySprite dies, anthusiasm kills Shoal at night. Killer victory.
b. 50% - Anthusiasm dies, Town victory.
IV. BlueSkySprite tries to kill Shoal, Shoal and anthusiasm try to kill BlueSkySprite
a. 50% - BlueSkySprite dies, anthusiasm kills Shoal at night. Killer victory.
b. 50% - Shoal dies, anthusiasm kills BlueSkySprite at night. Killer victory.
V. BlueSkySprite and anthusiasm kill Shoal. Anthusiasm kills BlueSkySprite at night. Killer victory.
-4 The town kills Shoal
A. Anthusiasm kills BlueSkySprite at night.
I. pistachi0n and Thatwasademo kill anthusiasm. 50-50 Town or Cult victory.
II. pistachi0n and anthusiasm kill Thatwasademo. Anthusiasm kills pistachi0n at night. Killer victory.
B. Anthusiasm kills pistachi0n at night.
I. Anthusiasm and Thatwasademo vote for each other. 50-50 Town or Killer victory.
C. Anthusiasm kills Thatwasademo at night.
I. Anthusiasm and pistachi0n kill BlueSkySprite. Anthusiasm kills Shoal at night. Killer victory.
II. BlueSkySprite and pistachi0n kill anthusiasm. Town victory.
III. Anthusiasm and pistachi0n try to kill BlueSkySprite, BlueSkySprite votes to kill anthusiasm.
a. 50% - BlueSkySprite dies, anthusiasm kills pistachi0n at night. Killer victory.
b. 50% - Anthusiasm dies, Town victory.
IV. BlueSkySprite tries to kill pistachi0n, pistachi0n and anthusiasm try to kill BlueSkySprite
a. 50% - BlueSkySprite dies, anthusiasm kills pistachi0n at night. Killer victory.
b. 50% - pistachi0n dies, anthusiasm kills BlueSkySprite at night. Killer victory.
V. BlueSkySprite and anthusiasm kill pistachi0n. Anthusiasm kills BlueSkySprite at night. Killer victory.
-5 The town kills Thatwasademo
A. Anthusiasm kills BlueSkySprite at night.
I. pistachi0n and Shoal kill anthusiasm. Cult victory.
B. Anthusiasm kills pistachi0n at night.
I. BlueSkySprite and Shoal kill anthusiasm. Town victory.
II. BlueSkySprite tries to kill anthusiasm and anthusiasm and Shoal try to kill BlueSkySprite.
a. 50%- Anthusiasm dies, Town victory.
b. 50%- BlueSkySprite dies, anthusiasm kills Shoal at night. Killer victory.
III. BlueSkySprite tries to kill Shoal, anthusiasm and Shoal try to kill BlueSkySprite
a. 50% - BlueSkySprite dies, anthusiasm kills Shoal at night. Killer victory.
b. 50% - Shoal dies, anthusiasm kills BlueSkySprite at night. Killer victory.
C. Anthusiasm kills Shoal at night.
I. BlueSkySprite and pistachi0n kill anthusiasm. Town victory.
II. BlueSkySprite tries to kill anthusiasm and anthusiasm and pistachi0n try to kill BlueSkySprite.
a. 50%- Anthusiasm dies, Town victory.
b. 50%- BlueSkySprite dies, anthusiasm kills pistachi0n at night. Killer victory.
III. BlueSkySprite tries to kill pistachi0n, anthusiasm and pistachi0n try to kill BlueSkySprite.
a. 50% - BlueSkySprite dies, anthusiasm kills pistachi0n at night. Killer victory.
b. 50% - pistachi0n dies, anthusiasm kills BlueSkySprite at night. Killer victory.

If BlueSkySprite is the killer:
-1 The town kills anthusiasm.
A. BlueSkySprite kills pistachi0n at night.
I. BlueSkySprite and Shoal kill Thatwasademo. BlueSkySprite kills Shoal at night. Killer victory.
II. BlueSkySprite and Thatwasademo kill Shoal. BlueSkySprite kills Thatwasademo at night. Killer victory.
III. BlueSkySprite tries to kill Thatwasademo, and Thatwasademo and Shoal try to kill BlueSkySprite.
a. 50% - BlueSkySprite dies. 50-50 Town or Cult victory.
b. 50% - Thatwasademo dies. BlueSkySprite kills Shoal at night. Killer victory.
IV. BlueSkySprite tries to kill Shoal, and Thatwasademo and Shoal try to kill BlueSkySprite.
a. 50% - BlueSkySprite dies. 50-50 Town or Cult victory.
b. 50% - Shoal dies. BlueSkySprite kills Thatwasademo at night. Killer victory.
B. BlueSkySprite kills Shoal at night.
I. BlueSkySprite and pistachi0n kill Thatwasademo. BlueSkySprite kills pistachi0n at night. Killer victory.
II. BlueSkySprite and Thatwasademo kill pistachi0n. BlueSkySprite kills Thatwasademo at night. Killer victory.
III. BlueSkySprite tries to kill Thatwasademo, and Thatwasademo and pistachi0n try to kill BlueSkySprite.
a. 50% - BlueSkySprite dies. 50-50 Town or Cult victory.
b. 50% - Thatwasademo dies. BlueSkySprite kills pistachi0n at night. Killer victory.
IV. BlueSkySprite tries to kill pistachi0n, and Thatwasademo and pistachi0n try to kill BlueSkySprite.
a. 50% - BlueSkySprite dies. 50-50 Town or Cult victory.
b. 50% - pistachi0n dies. BlueSkySprite kills Thatwasademo at night. Killer victory.
C. BlueSkySprite kills Thatwasademo at night.
I. BlueSkySprite tries to kill pistachi0n, and Shoal and pistachi0n try to kill BlueSkySprite.
a. 50% - BlueSkySprite dies. Cult victory.
b. 50% - pistachi0n dies. BlueSkySprite kills Shoal at night. Killer victory.
II. BlueSkySprite tries to kill Shoal, and pistachi0n and Shoal try to kill BlueSkySprite.
a. 50% - BlueSkySprite dies. Cult victory.
b. 50% - Shoal dies. BlueSkySprite kills pistachi0n at night. Killer victory.
-2 The town kills BlueSkySprite. 50-50 Town or Cult victory.
-3 The town kills pistachi0n.
A. BlueSkySprite kills anthusiasm at night.
I. BlueSkySprite and Shoal kill Thatwasademo. BlueSkySprite kills Shoal at night. Killer victory.
II. BlueSkySprite and Thatwasademo kill Shoal. BlueSkySprite kills Thatwasademo at night. Killer victory.
III. BlueSkySprite tries to kill Thatwasademo, and Shoal and Thatwasademo try to kill BlueSkySprite.
a. 50%- BlueSkySprite dies. 50-50 Town or Cult victory.
b. 50%- Thatwasademo dies. BlueSkySprite kills Shoal at night. Killer victory.
IV. BlueSkySprite tries to kill Shoal, and Shoal and Thatwasademo try to kill BlueSkySprite.
a. 50%- BlueSkySprite dies. 50-50 Town or Cult victory.
b. 50%- Shoal dies. BlueSkySprite kills Thatwasademo at night. Killer victory.
If you want to see this with spaces, press the quote button on this post.
I think this actually might cover all the possibilities, if we consider Anthusiasm and Thatwasademo interchangeable?

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:22 am
by Shoal
@BSS <3<3<3

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:35 am
by Alicorn
Vote tally:

thatwasademo: 4 (anthusiasm, BlueSkySprite, Shoal)
anthusiasm: 1 (thatwasademo)
BlueSkySprite: 1 (pistachi0n)

YOU CHARGE THATWASADEMO. WITH JAYWALKING, FOR HIS UTILITY BILL, AND ALSO IN THE TRADITIONAL FASHION WITH SCREAMING AND RUNNING AND REPEATEDLY SLAMMING HIM INTO STATIONARY SOLID OBJECTS. Soon he is dead. YOU CONSULT HIS UTILITY BILL, WHICH OF COURSE IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN TO DO TO A LIVING PERSON OR YOU MIGHT HAVE TRIED THIS METHOD WITHOUT ALL THE MURDER. The bill is made out to TOWNIE: "IVAN". WATER COMPANIES ARE OMNISICIENT, AS YOU KNOW. BUT VERY AMORAL. VERY AMORAL INDEED.

The sun descends. The sun comes back with souvenirs. THE SUN SHINES BRIGHT AGAIN. NOTHING HAS HAPPENED ALL NIGHT. WERE THESE PLANS LAID IN ADVANCE? LIKE EGGS? OR HAS ALL MOTION BEEN PREVENTED, LEAVING WOULD-BE ACTORS IN SLEEP PARALYSIS HELPLESS IN THEIR BEDS? You do not know. UNLESS YOU KNOW. TALK, YOU CAGEY BASTARDS, TALK. Or don't. Talking would probably be super bad strategy I guess, I can't blame you.

Day will last 24 hours. I hear that's trendy, 24-hour days.

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:42 pm
by anthusiasm
I'm starting to suspect that the killers are all dead and we don't win until we kill all the cult members.

ETA: I don't know anything about how online Mafia usually works so this could be way off base, but that's my thought. I am going to think really, really carefully before actually killing any cult members.

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:18 pm
by BlueSkySprite
I am also concerned that there might be no killers left, in which case if the town killed anthusiasm, there would be a 50-50 chance of Town vs Cult victory, and if the town killed me, there would be a 100% chance of Cult victory. I'm working on a possibility tree.
Also @Thatwasademo's ghost: I'm sorry. I actually thought you were probably a killer. I really want to know what your powers were once this game is over.

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:21 pm
by BlueSkySprite
Alright I've got this! I'm not entirely sure what to do with, but I've got this!
If you want to read this with indentation levels, click on the "quote" button.
I also have a version of this where victories are color-coded, although I would need to have that be in a Google Doc or something, which would require more effort.

EDIT: Please let me know if there are reasonable possibilities I missed. Edited again to fix a typo.

Also, @Shoal, could you please make a countdown image? Sorry, but I don't think mine have been right so far.
If There Are No Killers Left
1- The town kills Anthusiasm.
A. BlueSkySprite tries to kill Cultist A, and Cultist A and Cultist B try to kill BlueSkySprite
a. 50% BlueSkySprite dies, Cult victory.
b. 50% Cultist A dies. Next day BlueSkySprite kills Cultist B. Town victory.

2- The town kills BlueSkySprite. Cultist A and Cultist B kill Anthusiasm. Cult victory.

3- The town kills Cultist A.
A. Anthusiasm and BlueSkySprite kill Cultist B. Town victory.
B. BlueSkySprite tries to kill Anthusiasm and Anthusiasm and Cultist B try to kill BlueSkySprite.
a. 50% BlueSkySprite dies. Anthusiasm tries to kill Cultist B, and Cultist B tries to kill Anthusiasm.
i. 50% Anthusiasm dies. Cult victory.
ii. 50% Cultist B dies. Town victory.
b. 50% Anthusiasm dies. BlueSkySprite kills Cultist B. Town victory.
C. BlueSkySprite tries to kill Cultist B, and Anthusiasm and Cultist B try to kill BlueSkySprite.
a. 50% BlueSkySprite dies. Anthusiasm tries to kill Cultist B, and Cultist B tries to kill Anthusiasm.
i. 50% Anthusiasm dies. Cult victory.
ii. 50% Cultist B dies. Town victory.
b. 50% Cultist B dies. Town victory.
D. BlueSkySprite and Cultist B kill Anthusiasm. BlueSkySprite kills Cultist B. Town victory.
If There Is One Killer and She is Anthusiasm
1- The town kills Anthusiasm. 50-50 Town/Cult victory.

2- The town kills BlueSkySprite.
A. Anthusiasm kills Cultist A at night. Anthusiasm and Cultist B vote for each other. 50-50 Killer/Cult victory.
B. Anthusiasm kills nobody at night. Cultist A and Cultist B kill Anthusiasm. Cult victory.

3- The town kills Cultist A.
A. Anthusiasm kills BlueSkySprite at night. Cultist B and Anthusiasm vote for each other. 50-50 Killer/Cult victory.
B. Anthusiasm kills Cultist B at night. BlueSkySprite kills Anthusiasm. Town victory.
C. Anthusiasm kills nobody at night.
a. The town kills Anthusiasm. Town victory.
b. The town kills Cultist B. Anthusiasm kills BlueSkySprite at night. Killer victory.
c. Anthusiasm and Cultist B try to kill BlueSkySprite. BlueSkySprite tries to kill Anthusiasm.
i. 50% Anthusiasm dies. Town victory.
ii. 50% BlueSkySprite dies. Anthusiasm kills Cultist B at night. Killer victory.
d. Anthusiasm and Cultist B try to kill BlueSkySprite. BlueSkySprite tries to kill Cultist B.
i. 50% BlueSkySprite dies. Anthusiasm kills Cultist B at night. Killer victory.
ii. 50% Cultist B dies. Anthusiasm kills BlueSkySprite at night. Killer victory.
If There is One Killer and She is BlueSkySprite
1- The town kills Anthusiasm.
A. BlueSkySprite kills Cultist A at night. BlueSkySprite kills Cultist B during the day. Killer victory.
B. BlueSkySprite kills nobody at night. 50-50 Killer/Cult victory.

2- The town kills BlueSkySprite. Nobody dies at night. The town kills Anthusiasm. Cult victory.

3- The town kills Cultist A.
A. BlueSkySprite kills Anthusiasm at night. BlueSkySprite kills Cultist B during the day. Killer victory.
B. BlueSkySprite kills Cultist B at night. BlueSkySprite kills Anthusiasm during the day. Killer victory.
C. BlueSkySprite kills nobody at night.
a. The town kills Anthusiasm. BlueSkySprite kills Cultist B at night. Killer victory.
b. Anthusiasm and Cultist B try to kill BlueSkySprite, and BlueSkySprite tries to kill Anthusiasm.
i. 50% BlueSkySprite dies. 50-50 Town/Cult victory.
ii. 50% Anthusiasm dies. BlueSkySprite kills Cultist B at night. Killer victory.
c. Anthusiasm and Cultist B try to kill BlueSkySprite, and BlueSkySprite tries to kill Cultist B.
i. 50% BlueSkySprite dies. 50-50 Town/Cult victory.
ii. 50% Cultist B dies. BlueSkySprite kills Anthusiasm at night. Killer victory.
d. The town kills Cultist B. BlueSkySprite kills Anthusiasm at night. Killer victory.

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:43 pm
by anthusiasm
I'm having trouble speculating right now because, like, I can't actually trust any of you at this point, sorry.

I think I'd be more comfortable killing a cultist than BSS.

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:15 pm
by BlueSkySprite
I am not a killer, and I want to maximize chances of town victory. I don't know if anthusiasm is a killer.

If the town kills anthusiasm and she is a killer, then there will be a 50-50 chance of town victory. If the town kills anthusiasm and she is not a killer, there will be a 50-50 chance of town victory.

If the town kills a cultist and anthusiasm is a killer, anthusiasm probably kills me at night. If the town kills a cultist and anthusiasm is not a killer, the town is basically guaranteed a victory.

I think the killers are probably dead because I've been getting pretty strong not-a-killer vibes from Anthusiasm and I think it would have been better for a killer to have killed someone over these last few nights, which makes it seem likely that the only remaining issue is the cultists.

Also Shoal is more convenient to have alive than pistachi0n because they are good at countdown timers. And they haven't recently voted to kill me.
So I vote to kill pistachi0n. I could maybe be persuaded to change my mind by good reasons.

@cultists, if you have a win condition that isn't what I've been operating on, please let me know now.

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:21 pm
by anthusiasm
Oh, good, someone else picked a cultist for me! I was very conflicted! kill pistachi0n.

Re: Effulgence Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:22 pm
by anthusiasm
Sorry for the double post, but I'm wondering if perhaps it would be better to kill Shoal first, since we know DanielH tapped them twice.
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