Alicornutopia

I don’t like wandering blind either and I like this line of thinking, but it would be trivial for us to overlook something while doing so. This could be accidental, as is probably the case when you said “Tony’s blatantly not a killer” when the first in-story Tony did kill very effectively and I’d say it’s only “very unlikely”, or deliberate, like in the (extremely) unlikely possibility where you were a Tony and a killer where you said that.

Basically, I say this investigation is a good idea, but we shouldn’t trust it too much.

Anyway, my ideas for these roles:

• Bell: about what you said, maybe, except that I think Chris is a lot more likely as doctor. Maybe something introspection-related where they can know things about their roles the rest of us don’t? What could there be about a role that most people wouldn’t know, given that the way these games usually work is everybody knows their full role?
• Joker: I find it very odd that I agree that a Joker is unlikely to be a killer. Unless we have a Bat role? But that also seems unlikely. My thoughts on abilities are to ignore Sunnyvampirism if that’s a thing, or maybe something about love. Lovers in this type of game is often a disadvantage, though.
• Sherlock: Investigation of some sort. I highly doubt you’re hilariously wrong there. Maybe resisting Sunnyvampirism or something.
• Tony: I don’t see much use for engineering. Maybe they can create a JARVIS or something, or have a connection to somebody playing that role?
• Libby could be a godfather role, which especially makes sense thematically because she’s Moriarty. But on the other hand, I think godfathers in Mafia are the ones who hide from investigation, which fits Voice better. This seems like it could also be an investigation role, honestly.
• Kingfisher is again a potential investigation role. I doubt all the ones I’m naming as such really are, though. Maybe they have different kinds of investigation: Kingfishers can learn more about the rules than the rest of us, but don’t directly know how they apply to people, maybe.
• Virginia: I have no clue.
• Chainsaw: Chainsaw usually tortures instead of kills. Maybe incapacitating somebody so they can’t act the next day/night?
• Eights: I’m thinking something along the lines of being able to take somebody’s place. A mini-doctor, where instead of actually saving that person, they die in that person’s place and win if that person does.
• Steven (Voice): Hiding. A killer that doesn’t show up as one, potentially. Or a 21st player we don’t even know is playing until an investigator says otherwise.

There’s also the role Thatwasademo is trying to roleplay as, which may or may not be his actual role. Unfortunately, I think he’s falling prey to the Illusion of Transparency or I’m just being really dense, because I can’t figure out what the claimed role actually is. My best guess is “maybe Carrina”.

I too have been reading more about mafia strategy and now think it would be best to lynch on the first day but I don't really know who to lynch.

I think there is some merit in trying to figure out the meta story. I think it is unlikely we will successfully figure it out on day 1. But I also think it is unlikely we will figure it out on day n if we don't try to figure it out on day n - 1 and day n - 2 etc.

In some games that I've been reading about, there is a serial killer who is not part of the mafia who works by themself and their win condition is that everyone but them dies. If this game has that kind of thing, maybe Steven would be that.


My guess for Thatwasademo would be someone from a nonpealed world if they don't know what wishcoins are. Ivan? Miles? Mark? What other nonpealed templates do we have?

I’ve seen the following potential roleplaying clues:

• Not knowing about wishcoins or torching.
• Expecting to have found a wishcoin if possible (maybe from Quinn)?
• Calling people mean/agreeing with me doing so.

We could state our templates?
Assuming the killer templates correspond to actual killers that could be valuable data.
People can lie, but assuming no alts the real owner of claimed template would know it's a lie.

is this forbidden?

It's explicitly allowed in the other thread, but the rules could have changed. People could also say “I'm not just any Bell; I'm specifically Glass and have this ability”, which lowers the chance of somebody knowing they're lying but is really suspicious if everybody is a template as most people assume and that character is the only character who claims to be an instance instead of a full template.

This also tells all the killers who the high-value town players are, though.

EDIT: Alicorn beat me to it mechanics-wise, although I would be really suspicious of anybody claiming to be an Elspeth without some further evidence. I'm still not sure it's a good idea, though.

I will start by volunteering that I am an ordinary townsperson with no special powers. If anyone thinks I am trying to hide something by claiming that role, keep in mind that I have had no suspicion on me yet. If I were the killer, I would try to keep the suspicion off of me by not being the first to volunteer this information. My motives are to build trust in this community.

If that is true, pistachi0n, then you have made it easier for the killers to target one of the people with special powers by killing someone who isn't you. they know you're not a valuable target so they can move on to someone else who has a higher probability of being a target.

Here is my template. Encrypted with online RSA key generator.
This way I can't later choose to lie about it. I could be lying now I suppose, but if there is a duplicate I would be caught.
If this is illegal, please tell me and I will discard the private key.

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-----BEGIN PUBLIC KEY-----
MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQCTQ9PFVmY8/rLbsgqk5su6UZqb
6i4FxhBx9FkU+00e/BPy/cJzGd2EEIypVrqTqKAyKlARVboxWXtu+vw8hCZJsr69
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la+QH4JgUhAz6TE1swIDAQAB
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i couldn't understand the wikipedia article on that topic well enough to answer this question: is there anyway to figure out what those letters mean?